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Hello to start I have no pictures. This is someone rifle I am asking questions for. ITs a lee enfield no 4mark 1 Has property us armoury written on it and has a barrel lug on the end of the barrel. The barrel also narrows on the end. Again sorry no pics but IF you know any info on the style that would be great.
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Well from the limited info and lack of pictures the one thing I'm confident in saying is that if it's a No4mk1 or an SMLE it wasn't made by Springfield. It could be Savage/Stevens No4 perhaps.
 
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I wasn't paying attention to what I was writing, made some changes to the post
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Your rifle sounds to be a WWII Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.I (likely a Mk.I*) made by Savage Arms in the U.S.A.

What is that the information which you seek?

Not sure as to your question about identifying your No.4 Mk.I, you seem to have nailed it already!

The US Property stamp is from the time where the US had not yet entered the war, they were still neutral and were careful as to what the rest of the world thought. As a political maneuver, as much for the home politics as anything, and rather than being seen as giving arms to the Brits ($$$$ millions), the arms and equipment were handed over on a 'Lend - Lease' program. Hence the US property stamp.

The marking does not mean that the rifle was used by US troops.
 
shooterm said:
Lug on the end is for rifle grenade. I am basically looking for some history background. For someone else
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It could be very difficult to get the actual history of the rifle. Many markings will be from the factory so will tell little of its adventures. One can sometimes tell how and when repairs were made but again, info will be limited. Buttstock markings may refer to a unit but likely refer to a rack number which means little. However, the date of manufacture can be surmised by the serial number, so there's that.
 
If you want to compare your Savage Enfield against an "all correct" 43 Savage as originally issued one, go to the United Kingdon - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=120-united-kingdom and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?p=1312.

With thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=3537

Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.

Hope this helps... :)

Regards,
Doug
 
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If you want to compare your Savage Enfield against an "all correct" 43 Savage as originally issued one, go to the United Kingdon - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=120-united-kingdom and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?p=1312.

With thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=3537

Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.

Hope this helps... :)
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Regards,
Doug
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Researching a newly acquired enfields can be fun. More engravings and stamps then the pyramids. Ive been on the hunt to aquire one from every ROF
 
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