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Hi. I'm currently shopping for a possible 9mm purchase. It will be my first centerfire pistol, which I plan to use primarily for casual target shooting and possibly a bit of IDPA ( I would like to try it and see where it goes ). My question relates to magazine capacity. The way I read the rules the magazine is to be loaded to the class capacity of 10 in the mag and one in the chamber. Elsewhere in this forum I have read that the magazine must have a capacity of no more than 10 rounds. One of the firearms that I am considering is the S&W M&P Pro. However the S&W website states it comes with 17 round mags. Is this legal in IDPA? Does one just load the mag to the class limit? Or, is the 17 round mag available only in the U.S. and ones sold in Canada limited to 10 rounds due to our federal regs? Thanks.
 
small gamer said:
Hi. I'm currently shopping for a possible 9mm purchase. It will be my first centerfire pistol, which I plan to use primarily for casual target shooting and possibly a bit of IDPA ( I would like to try it and see where it goes ). My question relates to magazine capacity. The way I read the rules the magazine is to be loaded to the class capacity of 10 in the mag and one in the chamber. Elsewhere in this forum I have read that the magazine must have a capacity of no more than 10 rounds. One of the firearms that I am considering is the S&W M&P Pro. However the S&W website states it comes with 17 round mags. Is this legal in IDPA? Does one just load the mag to the class limit? Or, is the 17 round mag available only in the U.S. and ones sold in Canada limited to 10 rounds due to our federal regs? Thanks.
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Those mags will be 10 rounds in Canada. You are good to go for IDPA with that gun.
 
Pistol mags in canada must be limited to 10 rounds otherwise they would be prohibited devices. This has nothing to do with IDPA, it's just the law up here and canuckistan.

For IDPA purposes, (even in the US where standard mags are the norm) all mags must be loaded to division capacity (10 rounds for SSP and ESP). So in the US, you can use 17 round mags...but they must only have 10 rounds loaded in them. Some guys load 11 in their first mag for the top up procedure, but that's perfectly acceptable.
 
I see from your signature you are a member at EESA. Onagoth, who replied in this thread already, is the guy to talk to about IDPA at EESA. There is a great group of shooters and clubs between Windsor and London that host matches through out the year. An IDPA match is a great way to spend a Saturday!
 
Thanks Anthrax. In fact, Onagoth and I have crossed paths at the club. I just purchased a used M&P 9 on the EE and now I have to wait for it. In the meantime I'm checking out some goodies like holsters and mags. I really don't know how serious I'll get with IDPA, but I would like to try it and see how I like it. The biggest problem is going to be getting out to the club for practice nights because I work afternoons ten months a year.
 
Thanks 792, I actually think about it sometimes lol. Truth is, when my job of 16 1/2 years tanked when they closed my plant I was really lucky to get the one I have. Decent wage, decent benefits, but crappy hours.
 
Steve David said:
All you can do is go when you can. IDPA is growing very quickly and there are more and more clubs affiliating so your options to go and shoot are getting bigger.
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That's my plan. I see that Onagoth will be trying to host a NSO at East Elgin in December. I would still like to compete even if I can't get to a lot of practice nights, but I know the more practices I attend the more comfortable I will be. I can probably schedule some weeknights off to practice by trading overtime worked for time off, and using some vacation days. EESA will be having IPSC practice twice a month. I'm thinking that if I can attend one practice a month and one shoot a month, I'll be happy.
 
small gamer said:
That's my plan. I see that Onagoth will be trying to host a NSO at East Elgin in December. I would still like to compete even if I can't get to a lot of practice nights, but I know the more practices I attend the more comfortable I will be. I can probably schedule some weeknights off to practice by trading overtime worked for time off, and using some vacation days. EESA will be having IPSC practice twice a month. I'm thinking that if I can attend one practice a month and one shoot a month, I'll be happy.
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AFAIK...one of those IPSC nights is a match...and a BB is required. The other is just a club night, so any holster certification is accepted....

Might want to confirm before making the trip though
 
Anyone can come out and shoot on the EESA IPSC Practice night, even if you just want to come and check it out, you can borrow someones firearm and try it out, that would be the 4th Tuesday of the month, the 2nd Tues of the month is now relegated to a Lvl 1 match, so yes a BB would be required
 
Thanks for the info regarding the IPSC nights at EESA, however I was referring to the IDPA practice nights that are to be on the first and third Wednesdays. I bought an 9mm on the EE and it will likely be a few weeks before the seller can ship it to me re: the wait on the CFO for the ATT to ship. So I hope to have it and a holster/mag holder combo and three mags all put together by the time the IDPA new shooter orientation takes place, and after having participated in the orientation, trying to attend one practice at EESA and one match a month at any one of the clubs that host IDPA events. As far as making the trip, I live 20 minutes away and I'm at EESA at least once a week (often more) anyway whether it's for casual target shooting or trap or working with the grounds maintenance crew. I honestly had no interest in action shooting until the last day of the IPSC charity match. I spent the day there helping out with the kitchen crew and took some time to watch a couple of stages on the 300 and indoor ranges. I think IPSC is pretty cool but I feel that IDPA will be more suitable for me since I'm not really a competitive guy, I just want to improve my pistol skills in an action setting.
 
small gamer said:
Thanks for the info regarding the IPSC nights at EESA, however I was referring to the IDPA practice nights that are to be on the first and third Wednesdays. I bought an 9mm on the EE and it will likely be a few weeks before the seller can ship it to me re: the wait on the CFO for the ATT to ship. So I hope to have it and a holster/mag holder combo and three mags all put together by the time the IDPA new shooter orientation takes place, and after having participated in the orientation, trying to attend one practice at EESA and one match a month at any one of the clubs that host IDPA events. As far as making the trip, I live 20 minutes away and I'm at EESA at least once a week (often more) anyway whether it's for casual target shooting or trap or working with the grounds maintenance crew. I honestly had no interest in action shooting until the last day of the IPSC charity match. I spent the day there helping out with the kitchen crew and took some time to watch a couple of stages on the 300 and indoor ranges. I think IPSC is pretty cool but I feel that IDPA will be more suitable for me since I'm not really a competitive guy, I just want to improve my pistol skills in an action setting.
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Hey!!!! :slap:
 
Ooops. I didn't mean to offend anybody! I know IDPA is competitive, I meant that for a less than competitive guy like me the baggy shirt concealed carry scenario likely suits me better than the IPSC stuff. I was watching those IPSC folks at EESA and I saw at least one fellow wearing cleats and others with the athletic wear and stuff, which is cool, but from the videos I've checked out online I think I will fit in better in IDPA.

Onagoth, pm sent, thanks.
 
I certainly wasn't offended.....

Both sports can be as competitive as the person wants to make it, IDPA strictly forbids cleats, for why I don't know, but there are "Gamers" in that sport, just as much as there are "Gamers" in IPSC.

They are both fun, and I urge you to try them both!
 
7.62mm said:
IDPA strictly forbids cleats, for why I don't know,
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Because:
1 - IDPA is supposed to remain as cheap as possible for competitors to be able to compete with one another; to discourage "equipment races", and

2 - It's supposed to, as close as possible, resemble concealed-carry situations. When was the last time you wore cleats out grocery shopping?
 
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