If I had to start all over from the beginning.

evolture

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I'm still a newb... But I feel I have learned some lessons over the last few years of shooting and I'd like to share.

First of all If I had to start all over from the beginning I would have five firearms:

1) a scoped bolt action hunting rifle in a caliber able of taking a moose. (30-06, 308, you name it)
2) a service rifle of some sort (AR-15, or M1 Garand to match your 30-06, or a M14 to match your 308, or a sks to save money)
3) a scoped, reasonable quality, 22lr
4) a pump action 12 gauge (remington wingmaster, browning BPS, or ??)
5) a centerfire handgun (sig, 1911, glock or w.h.y.)

Here is what I did the first time around:
1) Bought a Marlin 336 in 30-30. I really like lever guns. However, when you drive 14 hours from the city to your hunting location, spend a few cold nights, and finally see your moose but it is 160 yards away. You start to think a Remington 700 in 30-06 is a really good idea.
2) Bought a Stag Arms AR-15. I love this rifle. However, I bought the model with a flip up site. Mine disassembled itself. Walt at Arms East told me his law enforcement customers get carry handles. Therefore, I sold my flip up and bought a Colt Carry handle sight. If I had to do this all over again, I might have bought a new Norc m4. I hear they are pretty good.
3) I bought a Ruger 10/22. I found this to be a fun rifle to shoot but the iron sights are hard to adjust. I ended up getting a Savage Mark II and putting a scope on it. I shoot my reactive target at the end of the range all day its great!
4) Sigh, my nicest gun and worse purchase. I bought a Beretta semi auto 12 gauge. I totally over bought when I bought this. It was fine when I had a local farm to duck hunt. However, some other hunters upset the farmer and he canceled everyones hunting permission. Now I have a big, way over priced, grouse getting gun that doesn't cycle light grouse loads very well. Sometimes an auto-loader is the wrong gun for the situation. Sometimes a break action is the wrong gun for the situation. A pump-action shotgun is never the wrong gun for the situation.
5) I have gone through several hand guns trying to find the right one. I bought a glock but never shot it well. I bought a sig p226 and it totally revolutionized my shooting. With my sig I sat at home and dry fired it in double action for hours. My sight picture became nice and steady. Now I am very happy with my pistol shooting! thank you Sig!

Other lessons:
Lube: sigs and 1911's need grease on the slide/frame
Cleaning supplies: Boresnakes are amazing!
EE: not everyone on the EE is going to give you a good deal. Regardless of their trader rating. I have got a few bad guns off of there. From now on I am only buying guns that are "like new in box."

Cheers!

:)
 
What beretta semi did you buy? I was looking at buying one today. I feel shy to purchase as 1800$ + tax is a lot for something that may not fire trap loads. Can you elaborate on your beretta experience?
Thx
 
A303. still an awesome shotgun. :)

It just hick ups a bit on light loads.. cycles smooth on normal duck loads.. I actually prefer italian shotguns for how they shoulder compared to american guns (ie mossbergs :p). I find it very comfortable even when I have to shoot a lot. For me I think for something approaching $2000 I would buy a nice pump and a nice handgun and ammo with the change. It you are going to be doing a lot of shotgunning the semi beretta may be your best choice.

Check the EE (equipment exchange) for an "as new" version of what you are looking for (save same $$$)
 
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I was thinking to get what I'd want new, this is what I figure I'd pay with taxes...

Winchester Model 70 in 308 + scope + sling = $1500
Sig 226 + holster + belt + extra mags + mag holder = $1500
Savage MK II plus scope and rings = $600
Remington 870 Wingmaster +sling = $900
Norinco M14 = $500

total of $5000 :eek:

Looking back in time it looks like a good deal... (I've spent that amount over again buying crap and selling it..) But in the beginning, if you'd ask me to spend that much, I'd tell you to get stuffed.
 
My advice for starting a collection in terms of best value for money would be:

Hunting/Target Rifle: Remington 700
.22 Rifle: Ruger 10/22
Tactical Rifle:" Cz 858
Shotgun: Remington 870 or Mossberg 500
Pistol: Glock 17 or 22
 
For my first couple firearms I'm planning on these:
Target Rifle: CZ 452
Plinking/Modding Rifle: Ruger 10/22
Rimfire Handgun: Browning Buckmark UDX Plus
Hunting Rifle/Milsurp: Mosin Nagant 1944

Any input or feedback would be nice :)
 
Thanks for the input.

Hmm, I have been looking at 22. rifles, the savage mkII looks good, but the idea of unlimited magazine capacity on a 10/22 seems pretty fun. I am kind of leaning toward a bolt gun but I am not sure anymore...
 
handfun:any 1911, smith, glock, sig.
shotgun:870 synthetic.
rifle:savage
military: not sure, my dad owns an sks and im not a huge fan. maybe a cz 858 all decked out with all the bells and whistles, or my buddy just bought a benelli rifle in .223 that takes ar mags, i must say the MR1 is a bad ass looking gun. to me it resembles an mp5 with a longer barrel.
 
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