jcuffe6240
CGN Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
Can anyone tell me if it is legal or illegal to import unprimed brass from the US? And why or why not?
Importing unprimed brass from US
- Thread starter jcuffe6240
- Start date
- Location
- Ottawa, Ontario
nope from what ive heard they treat components just about the same way they do loaded ammo, i imagine you would need an export permit.
its legal to import it.
illegal to export it.
BATF defines Ammunition as;
CATEGORY III—AMMUNITION
(a) Ammunition for the arms in
Categories I and II of this section.
(b) Components, parts, accessories,
and attachments for articles in
paragraph (a) of this category, including
but not limited to cartridge cases,
powder bags, bullets, jackets, cores,
shells (excluding shotgun shells),
projectiles, boosters, fuzes and components
therefor, primers, and other
detonating devices for such ammunition.
(c) Ammunition belting and linking
machines.
(d) Ammunition manufacturing
machines and ammunition loading
machines (except handloading ones).
NOTE: Cartridge and shell casings are
included under Category III unless, prior to
their importation, they have been rendered
useless beyond the possibility of restoration
for use as a cartridge or shell casing by
means of heating, flame treatment, mangling,
crushing, cutting, or popping.
illegal to export it.
BATF defines Ammunition as;
CATEGORY III—AMMUNITION
(a) Ammunition for the arms in
Categories I and II of this section.
(b) Components, parts, accessories,
and attachments for articles in
paragraph (a) of this category, including
but not limited to cartridge cases,
powder bags, bullets, jackets, cores,
shells (excluding shotgun shells),
projectiles, boosters, fuzes and components
therefor, primers, and other
detonating devices for such ammunition.
(c) Ammunition belting and linking
machines.
(d) Ammunition manufacturing
machines and ammunition loading
machines (except handloading ones).
NOTE: Cartridge and shell casings are
included under Category III unless, prior to
their importation, they have been rendered
useless beyond the possibility of restoration
for use as a cartridge or shell casing by
means of heating, flame treatment, mangling,
crushing, cutting, or popping.
Last time I placed an order with Graf & Sons, I was told they couldn't export brass without an export license, and that an export license would cost $250.00 to file.
When I mentioned I had ordered from Starline in the past, the guy told me they (Starline) shouldn't have shipped it to me and could get in trouble...
That was the last time I attempted to buy brass from the States.
When I mentioned I had ordered from Starline in the past, the guy told me they (Starline) shouldn't have shipped it to me and could get in trouble...
That was the last time I attempted to buy brass from the States.
jcuffe6240
CGN Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
So any private individual from Canada will have difficulty in ordering pistol or rifle brass, bullets and other cartridge parts?
The only place that makes it easy on Canadians to order reloading components is ReloadingInternational. Mike takes care of all the paperwork and even has an automated form filler and detailed instructions on what to do in Canada.
The way it works is that you need to apply for an import certificate in Canada. Once that's granted, you send or fax it to Mike at RI and he then applies for an export license in the States. Takes a couple of weeks all in all.
The best part is the license is good for a year, so you can apply for all the components you think you'll need for a year, then order what you need when you need it.
The way it works is that you need to apply for an import certificate in Canada. Once that's granted, you send or fax it to Mike at RI and he then applies for an export license in the States. Takes a couple of weeks all in all.
The best part is the license is good for a year, so you can apply for all the components you think you'll need for a year, then order what you need when you need it.
jcuffe6240
CGN Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
Well I shoot a Lee Enfield No.4, SKS and looking at getting into the Mosin Nagant's as well. I would like to try and find reload materials here in Canada, including FMJ bullets too. Any leads on this stuff would be great.
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
- Location
- Sudbury, On
Martini Henry 577/450
Well how could you ever assume cannon parts were exportable?
Enfield
- Buy 3 boxes of PRVI for around $20.00 a piece. Dealers here have it or will have it.
- Shoot it.
- Buy your reloading components. (bullets for example for .303 loads can be had for around 15¢ a piece)
- You now have 600 reloads on your hands if you use minimum to medium reloads. (approximately 20 reloads per piece of brass) After the first load your reloads are around 30¢ a piece.
SKS
- Save your time. Just buy PRVI for $17.00 per box of 20. If you hunt with your SKS, you may use 5 rounds per year. Three boxes is good for 12 years of hunting. If you're going to just shoot your SKS, use the $160.00ish crates of ammo floating around.
Nagant
- Buy 3 boxes of PRVI for around $20.00 a piece. Dealers here have it or will have it.
- Shoot it.
- Buy powder and primers. Get your bullets from your surplus 7.62X39 cartridges your shooting in your SKS.
- You now have 600 reloads on your hands if you use minimum to medium reloads. (approximately 20 reloads per piece of brass) After the first load your reloads are around 30¢ a piece.
Nothing has to be bought abroad and the costs are about the same.
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
Well how could you ever assume cannon parts were exportable?
Fun to shoot too
I forget if I got 50 or 100 cases when I ordered them. I've been using the same 10 now for the last few months working up a load. I just keep annealing the case necks.But I don't see anyone stepping up to tell me of a Canadian source for more brass.
Price has to be less then $3/case
Yes they did - try Mystic Precision, a site sponsor with a banner top right right corner of the page or just PM mysticprecision here on cgn. He gets quite a bit of uncommon stuff for me and prices are as good as it gets in Canada. Ask him. He usually replies almost immediately.
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
- Location
- WMU247 near Edmonton
I bought 7.62x54R from him not long ago, but he did not have 577/450 of any type.
Hmmm...... just checked he is advertising that he has Jamison brass now perhaps he might be able to get some 577/450. Wonder what his price is going to be
bought 7.62x54R from him not long ago, but he did not have 577/450 of any type.
Hmmm...... just checked he is advertising that he has Jamison brass now perhaps he might be able to get some 577/450. Wonder what his price is going to be
I also talk to myself at times. But usually not on the forums.
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