Informal 30-30 ammo test...

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I decided to try some 30-30 ammo on wet magazines for fun. The box of magazines were at 50 yards and they were moist, but not soaking wet. I tested the following ammo:

Remington 170gr Core-Lokt SP
Winchester 170gr Silvertip
Federal Power-Shok 170gr SPRN


The Federal had the greatest penetration at ~13.5"
The Silvertips were next, at about 12.5"
Last were the Core-Lokts at about 10"

The medium should have been more wet, but those were the results. The Silvertips and the Core-Lokts both suffered from jacket-core separation.

Interestingly, the Core-Lokts opened up into a rectangular mushroom. The measurements were .880" x .510" and .710" x .490". There was almost .300" of unmushroomed shank left on one bullet, and only .165" on the other.

The Silvertip opened in a more classic mushroom shape, with an approximate mean diameter of about .590", and about .710" at the widest point. There was about .185" of "unmushroomed" shank left.

The Federal Power-Shok looked like it held up the best, but the diameter was only about .46", although it was .59" at the widest point, were a piece of lead was jutting out. There was .265" of shank remaining, and there was no core-jacket separation.

It appears that the Remingtons open up quite fast and create lots of frontal area, causing it to transfer energy quite quickly. The Federal Power-Shock holds together very well and penetrates very well. The Silvertips are in between the two in performance.

From this admittedly weak test I'd hazard a guess that the Remingtons would perform very well on deer and other smaller game. The Federals may get the nod if you are after larger game such as moose.

I am going to reload some ammo, probably some Barnes X and maybe Nosler Partitions to see how they compare.
 
Interesting 1899. That's prety freaking good penetration for moist (hard) paper. Just goes to show the moderate velocity thing has advantages. I suspect if you were shooting similar bullets with a 30-06 some of those bullets would fail big time...

Keep us posted on your reload tests. Some 150 grainers would be interesting;) Oh and for what its worth I'd say stay with the same medium albeit a tough one.
 
I don't have access to the new Hornady ammo yet. Plus I reload, so I just wanted a base line. I didn't bother with accuracy testing because each gun has its own favourites. I'll get some pictures tonight, and may weigh the recovered bullets too.
 
given the fact that the majority of deer are probabaly taken within 50 yards-the 30/30 results show why it is still a very effective deer caliber,maybe moreso than much faster bullets
 
Interesting results. I'm not a reloader (yet) so would be interested to hear how the new Hornady's stack up in the same test - anyone been able to find them yet?

/gc
 
todbartell said:
it'd of been really interesting to try the 170 gr. Nosler Partition & 150 gr. Barnes X flat nose as well :cool:

Those results will come in the following weeks. I don't have the components yet, but I will update this thread when I get it all sorted out.
 
I'm actually torn between a 336 in 30-30 or a Model 7 with iron sights for my new truck gun.

At ranges you may jump out and chase an animal into the bush, the ol' 30WCF sounds just about right, especially with partitions. Looking forward to the data!
 
Excelllent post! I have used WPB's (Wet Phone Books) in the past for such testing and it's a lot of fun.:)

Thanks for detailing your .30-30 findings, 1899!

Jeff/1911.
 
anybody ran any of this ammo over a chrony? see how fast it is actually going (obviously fast enough to kill deer).
 
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