INFRACTIONS: for posting price comparison on dealer forums WHY?

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Why is CGN and dealers so strict about posting price comparison in the dealer forums ?

We all know that some dealers have " SALES" and on other sites and fourms the prices are hundreds cheaper on regular prices.......we are all just trying to get the best price.......and posting other dealers advertised prices on their forums just helps other members find the best deal and keep the dealers in line with other prices around canada......instead of being laughed at.....when I see an astronomical price on a dealer fourm.....I tend to never view their fourm or website again......CGN should think about changing the rules on posting price comparison in dealer forums.....what u guys think? :mad:
 
The dealers pay to have those forums.... How would you like to open a store selling turnips and have some clown come into your store and tell all of your customers that the store down the road is selling the same turnips at 20% less?

Onus is on the buyer to do their research....

Also IBTL....
 
If you shop around you quickly eliminate the most expensive items...

I would bet 90% of members just know exacly were to buy at the best price...

A individual has to make is calculations...
If you do your work proprely, you should not pay more than you have to... JP.
 
If this wasn't a dealer run/supported forum I would say anything goes.

But because it is I would suggest it's just proper etiquette for forum members to not try and pit one dealer against the other by posting "down to the penny" comparative prices in a post.

I don't see anything wrong with saying "bob's guns" has a sale on shotguns. But if you say Bob's guns is selling 870's for 500 bucks and Bill's guns is selling 870's for 650 bucks, "what's up with that" is just not "proper" on THEIR forum.

I sell guns/ammo and am "not" a contributing dealer. Because of that I would never post my prices up as either a "comparison" or an "advertisement" even if the rules allowed that (which is kinda what you seem to be suggesting).

I feel "ok" saying that say an 870 sells in the 500 to 650 "range" based on wholesale or whatever, but on "their" forum we need to leave the advertising and price comparison (if any) to those that are footing the bill to run this site.

If we compare 80% of the sponsors "out of business" the forum could well go away.

So if someone wants to start their own forum, they are free to allow such activities, but you don't piss on the guys paying the rent when you are living there for nothing...
 
You have to be careful with your opinions on dealer forums if you're not gushing and praising that dealer.
I had several dealings years ago with the owner of a now large very popular site sponsor who is a real di*k, but I dare not say anything about those days.
 
I have no problem with the dealer forums, they're a novel way for shops to advertise.

HOWEVER - I've never seen it anywhere else, and when you're new here (or anywhere) it's not intuitive to think that any particular aspect of CGN is a "no compare" zone. I rarely access a particular thread via the forum sub-tree, it's usually through "new posts", and I don't pay any attention at all to the forum the thread is under.

I know, I know - I need to read the rules.
 
They should have a membership rating system, and if a dealer rates low enough by enough people they shouldn't be allowed on here.

I can only think of one that shouldn't be here though. The majority of them are awesome to deal with.
 
Superbrad said:
The dealers pay to have those forums.... How would you like to open a store selling turnips and have some clown come into your store and tell all of your customers that the store down the road is selling the same turnips at 20% less?

Onus is on the buyer to do their research....

Also IBTL....
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Yes I understand they have to pay for the fourm but we all know some of the prices are rediculously overpriced and hundreds of dollars more than others....it has to be known to the dealer so they can manage their inventory and price accordanly within reason...and yes, Absolutely, I would want to know if someone Is selling turnips 20% less I would cut my losses and drop my turnips down to the same prices......I'm sure that the top 10 firearm dealers in the fourms buy from the same wholesalers and roughly the same price.......I think some of these dealers are just holding out on for an inexperienced buyer or Newby to jump on a certain item without shopping around
 
Would you walk into a store and start telling people at the cash register they cloud buy the product somewhere else for cheaper, and not expect the manager to toss you out?

The dealer forums are like stores. If you don't like the price, shop elsewhere. The dealers can easily see what the price is elsewhere if they look. If they don't, it's their loss.
 
icelink said:
Yes I understand they have to pay for the fourm but we all know some of the prices are rediculously overpriced and hundreds of dollars more than others....it has to be known to the dealer so they can manage their inventory and price accordanly within reason...and yes, Absolutely, I would want to know if someone Is selling turnips 20% less I would cut my losses and drop my turnips down to the same prices......I'm sure that the top 10 firearm dealers in the fourms buy from the same wholesalers and roughly the same price.......I think some of these dealers are just holding out on for an inexperienced buyer or Newby to jump on a certain item without shopping around
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Well that the buyers ####ing problem then,he obviously dosnt care enough about his money to shop around so why should anybody else give a #### ?
 
icelink said:
Yes I understand they have to pay for the fourm but we all know some of the prices are rediculously overpriced and hundreds of dollars more than others....it has to be known to the dealer so they can manage their inventory and price accordanly within reason...and yes, Absolutely, I would want to know if someone Is selling turnips 20% less I would cut my losses and drop my turnips down to the same prices......I'm sure that the top 10 firearm dealers in the fourms buy from the same wholesalers and roughly the same price.......I think some of these dealers are just holding out on for an inexperienced buyer or Newby to jump on a certain item without shopping around
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Again.... The onus is on the buyer to do his research.....

There may be reasons one dealer sells cheaper than another, maybe they bought in bulk when the Canadian dollar was worth more?... The point is, you can do the dealer a "service" by letting them know...... But going into their forum and telling everyone else isn't cool.....
 
They don't gotta give In and change their price just cause someone posts another price.....but it sure does give them something to think about.......if I was a dealer u sur as F*** why my product is rusting and colleting dust and why my pockets are feeling a little or in some dealers cases ALOT thinner......
 
and even worse......one dealer selling "used firearm inventory" for more than another dealers "new firearm inventory" THAT HAS TO BE KNOWN
 
fenceline said:
Would you walk into a store and start telling people at the cash register they cloud buy the product somewhere else for cheaper, and not expect the manager to toss you out?

The dealer forums are like stores. If you don't like the price, shop elsewhere. The dealers can easily see what the price is elsewhere if they look. If they don't, it's their loss.
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You're exactly right - I see the problem as most don't know that it's like a storefront. That should be made clearer.

It'd be better for everyone if it was. People wouldn't be getting infarctions for fairly innocent things, CGN would have more happy members, CGN would have even more advertising power, and their sponsors would have even more interested customers......

-J.
 
icelink said:
and even worse......one dealer selling "used firearm inventory" for more than another dealers "new firearm inventory" THAT HAS TO BE KNOWN
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You have to split that down a little more - are they selling "used" firearms or "consignment used firearms".

If bubba comes in and wants to "consign" his Savage Axis (bare rifle) for $425 and ABC gun shop sells them brand new, with warranty for $375 they can try and convince "bubba" that he want's too much or they can refuse to take the consignment or they can draw up the terms and put it on the used shelf for $425 like he wants.

How is that different then the private listings on EE where stuff is listed at or more than the going rate?

I really don't get where the "advertised price" gets so many upset. You are not being forced to shop there.

And as noted, their selling price may have nothing to do with "how much they are actually making" if they sell it for that price.

If I bought a dozen Axis "on sale" when the buck was at par I can sell them for over 100 bucks less than if I brought them in today.

Today the wholesale is more than the selling price of "last years stock". So if I want to offer them at all, and I don't have them in stock from last year it's either 100 bucks more than "bob's guns" or not carry them at all.

As a seller I either have to gamble that "bob" is going to run out of them quickly and then I WILL be competitively priced "once again" with everyone else OR I say, screw it, I'm not bringing them in (which I did with Henry this year) and when old stock runs out if someone wants one they can come back and see me in 2017 sometime.

But if you honestly believe that any dealer, especially in firearms which is supported by some of the biggest cheapskates on the planet, is saying "I'll just mark this up 100% and the sheep will pay because they are too stupid to comparison shop", I think you are way off the mark.

Because if everyone was priced the same that could only be done through "collusion". Would you prefer that all licensed sellers belong to some secret network where we fix the prices? So if today's MSRP on an Axis is $400 USD we calculate the exchange at $550 CDN and we all change our ticket price "so that it's FAIR" for the consumer.

Didn't they try that with gas somewhere in the Maritime's? Ask them what they think of that "fair system" which prevents price swings and varying pricing from one town to the next...
 
I have my dealers of choice, and when i want an item that is available and i see a better price even at a non CGN store, i just send and email and state my case...

I always get an advantageous arrangement...
This is like in everyday life, you have to be awared of what is going on around you and make the right decision...

This way you can keep your average on the + side... JP.:)
 
icelink said:
Yes I understand they have to pay for the fourm but we all know some of the prices are rediculously overpriced and hundreds of dollars more than others....it has to be known to the dealer so they can manage their inventory and price accordanly within reason...and yes, Absolutely, I would want to know if someone Is selling turnips 20% less I would cut my losses and drop my turnips down to the same prices......I'm sure that the top 10 firearm dealers in the fourms buy from the same wholesalers and roughly the same price.......I think some of these dealers are just holding out on for an inexperienced buyer or Newby to jump on a certain item without shopping around
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I think you are confusing dealers threads with the EE :rolleyes:

lol
 
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