What can you experts tell me about a wooden stock/holster for an Inglis Hi Power marked S.A.LTD 1945. Was this used in WW2 or part of a Chinese Contract. Current owner says it was brought back after the war. I will post photos later tonight.
Inglis Hi Power stock/holster
- Thread starter ChiliDawg
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The holster/stocks were modeled after those of the Mauser C96 pistol which was a very popular sidearm in China between the first and second world wars. The Inglis company manufactured all of the metal parts for the assembly and were overall responsible for the production for the holster/stock. Due to the lack of woodworking abilities at Inglis, the two wooden components of the holster/stock as well as final assembly was sub-contracted out to the Small Arms Limited(SAL) Crown corporation which was located in Long Branch, Ontario Canada. The Inglis firm had some initial trouble manufacturing the metal components for the holster/stock's causing the first shipments of completed units to be delayed.
In the SAL quarterly report for December of 1943 that was sent to the Minister of Munitions and Supply, SAL stated that they had taken on the task to manufacturer 150,000 holster/stock combinations for the John Inglis company. They go on to state that the engineering has been completed and that the tools, fixtures and gauges are being received in the plant. The report also pointed out that they plan to start production of the holster/stocks in early February of 1944 which will involve 53 machining operations. Their goal was to build up to 600 units per day. Taking into account the time table for the scheduled delivery of the metal parts from the Inglis company, SAL also reported that the production of completed units would be up to 22,000 per month by August of 1944. It was soon realized that only 140,000 holster/stock combinations instead of 150,000 that was in the report, and 40,000 web holster was all that was needed to fill the Chinese contract for the 180,000 pistols. The first shipments of completed holsters took place in July and by the end of that month they had produced 7,745. On September 7, 1945 the contract was canceled with SAL having in their inventory some 1,053 surplus holster/stock combinations. These were later disposed of through the War Assets Corporation which is now known as the Crown Assets Disposal Corporation that is still in operation today.
These original holster/stock combinations were only manufactured by SAL between the years of 1944 and 1945, with a total of 29,038 being produced. Today, well made reproductions can be found quite easily that are often being passed off as original.
Copied from http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_militaria__collectibles_canada_inglis.html as I couldn't have put it any better myself.
In the SAL quarterly report for December of 1943 that was sent to the Minister of Munitions and Supply, SAL stated that they had taken on the task to manufacturer 150,000 holster/stock combinations for the John Inglis company. They go on to state that the engineering has been completed and that the tools, fixtures and gauges are being received in the plant. The report also pointed out that they plan to start production of the holster/stocks in early February of 1944 which will involve 53 machining operations. Their goal was to build up to 600 units per day. Taking into account the time table for the scheduled delivery of the metal parts from the Inglis company, SAL also reported that the production of completed units would be up to 22,000 per month by August of 1944. It was soon realized that only 140,000 holster/stock combinations instead of 150,000 that was in the report, and 40,000 web holster was all that was needed to fill the Chinese contract for the 180,000 pistols. The first shipments of completed holsters took place in July and by the end of that month they had produced 7,745. On September 7, 1945 the contract was canceled with SAL having in their inventory some 1,053 surplus holster/stock combinations. These were later disposed of through the War Assets Corporation which is now known as the Crown Assets Disposal Corporation that is still in operation today.
These original holster/stock combinations were only manufactured by SAL between the years of 1944 and 1945, with a total of 29,038 being produced. Today, well made reproductions can be found quite easily that are often being passed off as original.
Copied from http://www.ai4fr.com/main/page_militaria__collectibles_canada_inglis.html as I couldn't have put it any better myself.
It appears to have the features of an original from what I know. I have heard the reproductions don't often have the felt padding for the barrel to rest against inside of them, and the wood APPEARS to be the correct type. Often the fit of the metal/wood isn't very good on the reproductions either, and they don't often fit on the pistols very well. The only issue I see on yours is that it's missing one metal piece on the interior. Hopefully there will be someone who knows more about these than me to confirm if it's original or not, I know these are tricky. I have heard even the reproductions are getting harder to find for shooting purposes.
-Steve
-Steve
I have BOTH an original SAL stock for the Inglis pistol as well as the "Chinese Knock-Off" that have appeared in recent years.
Your is an original.
The "Chinese Knock-Off's" do not use the correct wood, are stained darker and are made slightly different. They are good for display or for the collector who has not got the $450 to 500 to buy an original.
The reinforcment inserts at the hinge and latch are a dead giveaway.......
Here are photos of the KNOCK- OFF........ (for sale if you want it
)
Cheers,
B
Your is an original.
The "Chinese Knock-Off's" do not use the correct wood, are stained darker and are made slightly different. They are good for display or for the collector who has not got the $450 to 500 to buy an original.
The reinforcment inserts at the hinge and latch are a dead giveaway.......
Here are photos of the KNOCK- OFF........ (for sale if you want it
)
Cheers,
B
