Ingram SAM-1 rifles?

[SCDL]

Apparently, Ingram made a bunch of M1 carbine variants chambered in rounds like 5.56x45, 7.62x39 and even 7.62x51!

Have any of you seen one?

 

[chofo]

SCDL, any more info on this? A website maybe? I keep coming up with the Auto Ordnance website... can't see anything but 18" carbines, ( and all in the useless original calibre).

Now... maybe they haven't updated their website yet, but I would definately buy an M1 Carbine in 7.62x39 ... as long as it comes with an 18.5" barrel.

Expensive, though.

 

[SCDL]

Finding any info on these is rather difficult. I hoped someone here would know more.

 

[Eric_911]

Cool. That 5.56 one is pretty interesting!

 

[cantom]

Cool. That 5.56 one is pretty interesting!

...yep, 5 rounds interesting...

In other words, not very...

 

[Canuck223]

Looks like somebody had fun with photoshop.

 

[Captain Paul]

I'd take one in all 3 rounds!! 7.62 would be too fun! .308 would be amazing! 5.56 just for the heck of it! Ahhh lord!

 

[fat tony]

I seem to recall in my edition of Hatcher's Notebook, there was a short piece on submissions for a new service rifle for the US Army, circa late 1950's. Winchester submitted a design, sort of like the Ingram rifle above in 5.56x45mm.

 

[Desert_Fox]

Sooo..... we have the Mini-14, the Mini-30, and the M-14.....

And this is so special why???

 

[JP]

From what I have been able to read on the net, the design dates from the 1970's and had a very short production run and is now a collector's item.

 

[woodchopper]

Sooo..... we have the Mini-14, the Mini-30, and the M-14.....

And this is so special why???

exactly what I was thinking

Why would you take a a short carbine like the M1, streach out the reciever and chamber it in 223, 7.62x39 and with more streaching 7.62x51

Now I can understand if you were to rechamber it to take common pistol rounds, 9mm, .40, 357 super, 45ACP etc.... or even something like 218 bee, 256 Win Mag for close range varmit work.

 

[cyclone]

Sooo..... we have the Mini-14, the Mini-30, and the M-14.....

You saw that , too ?...

 

[enefgee]

300 whisper would make an interesting Carbine

 

[fat tony]

I would like to get a look at one of each. I wonder if the 7.62X51mm receiver was suitably beefy for the round?

 

[bfiles]

Id buy one, if they were available

 

[heavenIsAlie]

Sooo..... we have the Mini-14, the Mini-30, and the M-14.....

And this is so special why???

this

 

[fat tony]

Another M-1 Carbine variant, the .44 magnum pump action by Universal.

 

[smellie]

The 5.57MMJ Spitfire was very close to the Bee in power et cetera. I have been using my Bee dies to make up cute keychains from Carbine brass.

Be nice to see a Carbine or similar handling this, a .218 Rimless Bee. I think it would work.

Be even NICER to have a tiny water-cooled, belt-fed Wickers Gun to handle it, but that's not gonna happen. Unless, of course, I can persuade the Pattern Room to let me have that nice little fold-up briefcase Salesman's Sample gun. It's .300 R&R IIRC, but could be converted to handle the Rimless Bee with little trouble: new pawl, new barrel, new Nose Guide in the feed-block, new Gib on the Lock. Worth it, but I think it's a no-go. Maybe we can get Norinco to make up a few thousand of them, $199, EVERYBODY can have one.......

But the utility of something of the general type discussed here cannot be quibbled with. Only question is "what's wrong with what Ruger is making alredy?"

BTW, the NEW RIFLE which Hatcher wrote of in that early NOTEBOOK was the M-14/M-15.

Oh well, back to the sock closet!
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[SCDL]

5.45x39 would be pretty interesting.

 

[MegaMonkeyChunk]

I would take the SAM-2. I would actually take several SAM-2s.