Innovative Technologies Belted Magnum Collet Resizing Die.

Eagleye

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I know this has been touched on previously in a thread some time ago.
Just wanted to let some in here know how it actually works.
I had Bill Leeper build me a 308 Norma Magnum about a year ago.
It is on a 700 Remington action, and Bill did a very fine job.
The chamber is cut to what appear to be minimum SAAMI specs.

Net result is good velocities with powder charges lower than many listed.
However, in trying to size some existing 1F 308 Norma Magnum brass I had, I found I could not chamber it, because the pressure ring just ahead of the belt was too large, even with the best sizing die I had [I have 3 sets]
Even with the die set down to "bump" over hard, the problem remained. :(

In measuring the resized brass, I found the pressure ring was .512"-.5125"
If I measured a 1F case from this custom rifle, it was .511" :eek:
What this meant was that I had some 180 1F cases that were useless to me in this rifle. [I have another 308 Norma Mag rifle that they fit in easily]
But I have plenty of cases for the other rifle already, and wanted to use the brass on hand rather than buy the expensive new Norma stuff.

A little research found Innovative Technologies [Larry Willis]
They make a special collet die to reduce this pressure ring to factory new specs.

So I ordered one up to try and see if I could use my stock of 1F brass.
Voila!! It works better than I could have imagined!! It reduces the pressure ring to .5095-.510", and the brass now chambers with ease.

I have since acquired small quantity of 308 Norma Mag brass that has measured as large as .514" at the pressure ring.
No problem!!
One pass through the FL sizer, and one pass through the I.T. Collet die, and I'm good to go. :D
So if you have a belted magnum with a min spec chamber and want to save some brass that is too large at the pressure ring, this is the tool that does the job. I consider it money well spent.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
Thanks for the info. There was a post a while back where the popular consensus was no one really needed a belted magnum collet die like what you bought. But in the case of used brass in a min-spec chamber I guess they would be handy.:cool:
 
Thanks for the info. There was a post a while back where the popular consensus was no one really needed a belted magnum collet die like what you bought. But in the case of used brass in a min-spec chamber I guess they would be handy.:cool:

I am inclined to agree that this tool would be redundant if one used new brass in one rifle and kept using it in that rifle.
Unlikely he would ever run into an issue.
New brass in my rifle works just fine with normal resizing [neck or full-length]
after being fired.
It's when I am trying to use brass that has been fired in another, larger chamber first, that I run into the problem.
Cheers, Eagleye.
 
I have had one of Larry's dies for about three years now. Larry makes a good product that works as Eagleye explained above.

Now on with the peanut gallery as has happened so many times in the past here when Larry's die get mentioned...
 
Willis or whatever his name is, isn't full of s**t despite being shouted down awhile back. He may have over-stated how common the problem is, but he wasn't exactly wrong.

I've encountered the same problem, mostly in tight chambered custom barrels but also with cases fired in horrendiously over-sized factory chambers that wouldn't fit into other factory chambers after FL resizeing.What I've done is used my small based .300 Win Mag die to get a little more squeeze down at the bottom.

The good thing about the .300 Win small base die is that it will also put the squeeze on your .308 Norma, and by removeing the decapper assembly it will make a perfectly functional SB body die for 7mm Rem, .264 Win and .257 Weatherby. One of these days I'll cut the top off my small base 30-06 die so it will work on my .35 Whelen, it already works on .270 and 25-06. Probably 100 other cases too, if the need arose.


Tight chambers are all well and good, but like all good ideas someone will take it too far. In many cases my full length dies won't even touch the body of cases fired in the tight chambers. That left me with FL dies that were only nice fitting shoulder bump dies. Next came small based FL bushing dies, that functioned as body dies when the bushing was removed.
 
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