Interesting Ebay find with a forgotten history

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Apologies to the mods if this is too off topic, feel free to move it to an appropriate forum. I thought you guys might find this interesting though.

I have been looking for a WW2 Canadian helmet for awhile on Ebay and other sources. Couple weeks ago, I saw one with the name J.P. Gill inside with a service number beside it. I won the helmet:

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Out of interest sake while the auction was on, I went to the Canada Virtual War Memorial and put in his last name. A J.P.Gill came up and when I checked his service number with the helmet, it matched!!

Link:
http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/remembers/sub.cfm?source=collections/virtualmem/Detail&casualty=2663379

Unfortunately, he died on March 1st, 1945 near the end of the war. I now had his unit (Essex Scottish) off that site though so I did a little more research on Google. Turns out, the officer from his unit won the Victoria Cross for the unit's actions that day. Sounds like Gill was hit crossing 500 yards of open terrain. Here is the citation to his commanding officer Tilston with a description of the battle in the Hochwald forest:

Link:
http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=history/secondwar/citations/tilston

I also remembered a site that had old newspaper clippings from WW2 that I had been to before. Coincidently, JP Gill was from Hamilton and the Hamilton Spectator newspaper has most of their stuff archived online. I go to the site and type in Gill and get a newpaper article about him with a picture and a short bio!
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The beauty of the internet was that I was able to get all of this in an easy search of 15 minutes.

Getting this type of information on a piece in your collection sure adds a different personal perspective that is humbling to say the least.
RIP Pvt.Gill...
 
I've got a helmet marked:

"GSW | A D"
"MK 1 1941"

If you get ahold of that man's family and send them that helmet, I'll quite gladly send you this one to replace it. It's gathering dust on my shelf here.

NavyShooter
 
I don't mean to be an ass, but are you sure this is 100% authentic. Where did the buyer get it from?
Mind pasting the auction? or PM'ing?

I buy helmets off ebay too. A lot of good fakes out there.. you can never be too sure...

Good find!

thanks!
 
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Wow, definitely a piece of history there & a Newfoundland connection as well. Back then, we we're still our own country. I wonder if any of my relatives rubbed elbows with Pte. Gill at the EM club?
 
Name and regimental # was also frequently marked on kit with a moistened indelible pencil. How many of you out there remember those and or have a stub of one in their display kit? Kayceel
 
NavyShooter said:
I've got a helmet marked:

"GSW | A D"
"MK 1 1941"

If you get ahold of that man's family and send them that helmet, I'll quite gladly send you this one to replace it. It's gathering dust on my shelf here.

NavyShooter

Best reply to a post this year.

I bet that the family would love to have that helmet in their home.
 
Alberta Bigbore said:
amazing what is attached to some old war stuff. makes a purchase worthwhile when you find some history to it. ever consider contacting his family about the helmet?

Thanks guys for the comments. I am looking into the family thing already, we shall see if I can get something concrete.

The EBay seller wasn't sure of it's origin, so I can't be 100% sure of it's origin. The name and service number are certainly aged and consistent with the patina of the rest of the helmet. I think the writing is paint as the strokes are different widths (The G in Gill) and at some points appears to have pooled slightly. Not consistent with a marker IMHO but I could wrong. I got it for $25 so if the seller was faking it, he sure wasn't looking to cash in. The faking is a BIG problem with German helmets but doesn't seem to be with Canadian stuff yet as there doesn't seem to be the market and the supply of surplus shells is still large.

Regardless of the helmet's authenticity, never a bad thing to remember the sacrifice of guys like this.
 
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