Interesting Vickers Armstrong "ammunition testing device" ( on a Mauser 98 action )

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Interesting Vickers Armstrong "ammunition testing device" ( on a Mauser 98 action )

Hi All,

I’ve acquired an interesting piece I’d like to share with you all. I haven’t been able to find out too much about it, I’m awaiting replies on a few inquiries to Military Museums in Britain to try and positively identify it. I believe it could be some sort of ammunition accuracy testing platform for the British Military from the “Vickers Armstrong” company, post war ( going by what I could find out from the proof markings and stampings ) … but it’s all guesses at this point.


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The only back story I have on it is from the man that picked it up back in the late 60’s, early 70’s. It apparently was imported in a gun and equipment lot from a British Museum that closed around that time. There were supposedly four or five others like it, in different calibers in the same lot. This is apparently the only one that made it here. I searched “Vickers Armstrong” and similar to see if it possibly could be one of the caliber-developing test guns built when they were doing the Pedersen Rifle project back in the day, but so far can’t piece anything concrete together. I can’t even find a picture of one that looks exactly like it, very similar to a Mann Accuracy Device though.


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It weighs around 20lbs, 7 x 57mm Mauser caliber. The receiver is a “Gew 98” Mauser ( 1908 ) and the stock and receiver have Waffenstamps in several places. I’ve never seen a bolt assembly quite like it. Standard 98 Mauser, but the handle has a brass knob inset in it. The barrel is a thing of beauty … 2 inches in diameter, rifling still very sharp and clean, top is stamped “.283 “. Previous owner test fired it with ammunition that came with the gun in the box with the bipod assembly … the gun had very little recoil, obviously due to the weight. I have no plans to fire it personally at present, at least not until I find more out about it.

All I have done for cleaning was a liberal wipe-down with an oily rag to get 40 + years of gun-safe dust and some remnants of dried cosmo off, and a bore cleaning to see the condition of the rifling. Could use a little TLC with a toothbrush, but it is in fine condition overall.

It really is a neat piece, and I will add any further information I find out about it. If anyone has any info to add, feel free ..
:) DT


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The second claw-foot was missing when it was imported ...



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Very interesting. Weird combo of parts with the early Gew98 action and the WW2 laminate stock.

I'm looking forward to hearing more about it and hopefully someone can shed some light on it's exact usage and where it came from.
 
that rifle used to be at can -am gunstore years ago i almost bought it when i worked there ...cool never thought id see it again ..that was about 30 years ago ..Graham used to get all kinds of weird surplus stuff in the store....i did buy the bren gun testing rest from inglis he had out back ..long gone now super cool store
 
Possibly used for testing different types of ammo when the British were trying to develop the .280 British round (and the EM-2) for NATO competitions. Personally that would make sense for me as the rifle there is in 7mm Mauser, and the stock is WWII, so it at least has to be post-war work (unless it was restocked for some reason).
 
Vickers- Armstrong Ltd. dates it to after 1927...assuming that its legit.

the weaveresk scope bases appear to have been installed on top of Winchester (Unertl) style scope bases.
 
Possibly used for testing different types of ammo when the British were trying to develop the .280 British round (and the EM-2) for NATO competitions. Personally that would make sense for me as the rifle there is in 7mm Mauser, and the stock is WWII, so it at least has to be post-war work (unless it was restocked for some reason).


that would be my first guess.
 
thats not a scope mount its wire connectors for testing for the chamber pressure IIRC ...not sure if its a C U P copper units of pressure senser or not ...its been over 30 years since i had my grimey hands on that rifle
 
thats not a scope mount its wire connectors for testing for the chamber pressure IIRC ...not sure if its a C U P copper units of pressure senser or not ...its been over 30 years since i had my grimey hands on that rifle

That was a point I had wondered about ... the screws look like electrical contact type. The "scope mounts" don't really look like they would hold optics very well ....
 
thats not a scope mount its wire connectors for testing for the chamber pressure IIRC ...not sure if its a C U P copper units of pressure senser or not ...its been over 30 years since i had my grimey hands on that rifle

I'm pretty sure that you are incorrect as there is no pressure to measure at the rear receiver ring!
 
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