Internal Hammer Key Lock on S&W Revolvers

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Hello,
is the above mentioned considered a "Secure Locking Device" whilst transporting and storing?

Does one still need a trigger lock or will the I.H.K.L suffice?

What's your take on it?


cheers
 
Yes they are considered a secure locking device.

Should it ever malfunction the whole locking system can be removed simply by removing the side plate and pulling the hammer out.
 
I quit using the one on my 617 for fear of it failing in the locked state.

I do believe the regs call for an external locking device, so I'm not quite sure these things actually meet the letter of the law.

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gnmontey said:
I quit using the one on my 617 for fear of it failing in the locked state.

I do believe the regs call for an external locking device, so I'm not quite sure these things actually meet the letter of the law.
M
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It does, the RCMP says so, the Ontario CFO told me so and so did the CSSA.
 
09outlander said:
It does, the RCMP says so, the Ontario CFO told me so and so did the CSSA.
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The manual states "secure locking device", and doesn't mention external at all. Don't know where I got that notion from. My error.

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I'm told there is a plug that can be purchased in order to permanently remove the abomination. Does anyone know if S&W ship up here or a Canadian dealer that would help out, I'm just tired of looking at it every time I pick it up. That is what should not be!
 
plinker 777 said:
I'm told there is a plug that can be purchased in order to permanently remove the abomination. Does anyone know if S&W ship up here or a Canadian dealer that would help out, I'm just tired of looking at it every time I pick it up. That is what should not be!
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You'd still see it, even with a plug in the side of the frame. I really don't understand why so many people hate the lock, if you don't like it don't use it.
 
09outlander said:
Lawyers had nothing to do with it, some S&W revolvers don't have locks, it's also rumored that S&W will be producing more models without locks in the future.
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"In 2000 the Clinton administration reached an agreement with Smith & Wesson, to end federal and state lawsuits, in exchange for marketing and design changes by the company. Some of the items Smith & Wesson agreed to were; to sell guns with locks, to build the locks in the weapons within two years, implement smart gun technology, and take ballistic fingerprints of its guns. Clinton called the deal a “ major victory for America’s families.”The NRA and other gun rights groups heavily criticized the settlement calling Smith & Wesson’s actions “a sell-out”, with the NRA calling the agreement “”tantamount to back door blackmail”. Smith & Wesson’s ownership changed in 2001 and the agreement fell apart after George W. Bush came to office and supported lawsuit protection for gun manufactures. However, Smith & Wesson continues to sell guns with internal locks." - Quoted from:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/robert-farago/smith-wesson-forgets-to-remember/
 
@ Outlander;

If it's removed and plugged how would it still be seen?

I hate the lock, and I don't use it. I hate the lock because it's unnecessary, it could (conceivably) jam up the action of the gun, and because its my gun, and I wish it weren't there...I don't own a series 80 1911 for a lot of the same reasons (my 1911's are series 70's). I could not however find a 5" full underlug 629 (.44mag) without the friggin' lock.

So, do you know if Smith will sell and ship to me without any boarder BS, or do you know a Canadian dealer who has them?
 
I hate the lock too! this is what I found on the S&W forum. I have not contacted the guy yet, because removing the lock is not or real importance tome at this point.
If anybody orders from him, please let s know how it went.

cheers

NOTE:
If you have Questions please E-mail me at the below address. Thanks


This is the information you need to order "The PLUG". They come in Three Sizes - "J - Frame", "K/L/N - Frames" and the "X - Frame".

The finishes and codes are as follows:

J/B = J frame with a Semi-Bright Stainless Finish
J/BB = J frame with a Bead Blast Stainless Finish
J/BD = J frame made with Black Delrin

N/B = K/L/N frames with a Semi-Bright Stainless Finish
N/BB = K/L/N frames with a Bead Blast Stainless Finish
N/BD = K/L/N frames made with Black Delrin

X/B = X frame with a Semi-Bright Stainless Finish
X/BB = X frame with a Bead Blast Stainless Finish
X/BD = X frame made with Black Delrin


COST & PAYMENT:

**Cost is $32 Dollars with (FRAUD ALERT) (or a Check) for the First one, Second one is $27 and the Third one is $25.

**With a Check only You can go without the insurance , tracking and three day to save money,cost is $27 Dollars for the first, Second one is $25 and the third
is $23 Dollars.


**Your Plug with (FRAUD ALERT) (or Check) will have Insurance and Tracking along with being shipped by Priority Mail. Reason - (FRAUD ALERT) Says I have to, to be covered for lost. Plus I am having a lost rate of four to five units a month - that I remake and ship at my cost to keep everyone happy. I like everyone HAPPY,HAPPY,HAPPY. I'm sorry for the raise in cost, To keep me HAPPY, I have to.


Sent Check to :

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P.O.Box 1305
Scott Depot, WV 25560

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If you have problems with the installment E-Mail me at the above Address.


TIME:

It will take up to 20 days before they are shipped, then 2 to 3 days to get to you, I sorry about the time.
I'm just one Man with a Lathe making these. Thanks, John



PICTURES:
 
Also purchased with no issues. Stainless plug on a stainless gun looks much better than the factory plug.

Skill level 6 of 10 (it change your own oil and spark plugs you can do it.) ;)
 
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