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Why aren't the classifier high hit factors published? It seems in uspsa they aren't supposed to be, is it the same for ipsc?

They are fairly easy to figure out and I think it makes the classification process more transparent and easy to understand?
 
Onagoth said:
Why aren't the classifier high hit factors published? It seems in uspsa they aren't supposed to be, is it the same for ipsc?

They are fairly easy to figure out and I think it makes the classification process more transparent and easy to understand?
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And you are asking that here instead of sending this question to the board you have elected because?
 
Are you referring to the ICS high hit factors? They're not published because they are floating. If Klaus has the highest hit factor of 11.4 for a classifier, but then shoots an 11.3, then the HHF gets reduced for all future scores.
 
hungrybeagle said:
Are you referring to the ICS high hit factors? They're not published because they are floating. If Klaus has the highest hit factor of 11.4 for a classifier, but then shoots an 11.3, then the HHF gets reduced for all future scores.
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They don't. The issue is not relevant outside of the province.
 
Why aren't the classifier high hit factors published? It seems in uspsa they aren't supposed to be, is it the same for ipsc?

They are fairly easy to figure out and I think it makes the classification process more transparent and easy to understand
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High hit factors will change with time as the top shooters and their equipment and techniques improve.

The classification system for Ontario has relative high hit factors calculated from known ability of our top shooters compared to ICS and USPSA Hit Factors.

You can get the HHF by keeping track of your HF for a classifier and compare it to the percentage you get.

HHF are not published as the nature of some shooters is to try and fix the system, why do you need to know what they are?
 
I'm just along about the ics classifiers ....you don't even need to shoot the classifier to figure out what the hhf is, you just need to look at someone who has....given they are so easy to calculate, it's strange to me why they aren't posted why on the classifier.

If they float, I think that makes sense...but if they float, isn't it possible for someone to then move down in classification?
 
Ipsik said:
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High hit factors will change with time as the top shooters and their equipment and techniques improve.

The classification system for Ontario has relative high hit factors calculated from known ability of our top shooters compared to ICS and USPSA Hit Factors.

You can get the HHF by keeping track of your HF for a classifier and compare it to the percentage you get.

HHF are not published as the nature of some shooters is to try and fix the system, why do you need to know what they are?
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I don't need to know what they are, I already figured them out. I'm wondering why they aren't just published. Seems to me people may want to know what the benchmark is...it appears that they are kept quasi secret, which I don't understand
 
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Onagoth said:
I don't need to know what they are, I already figured them out. I'm wondering why they aren't just published. Seems to me people may want to know what the benchmark is...it appears that they are kept quasi secret, which I don't understand
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The way I look at it, the main intent of the system is to do assessment of competitor skill level. For that purpose you don't need to know any hit factors for a stage, you just need to shoot that sage at the best of your abilities. If you curious, you can obviously do the math yourself, no secrets there.

But I still wonder why are you asking it here? It is as good as asking it at your bowling club or at the grocery store...
 
I really like the system used at http://www.ipscrating.com and I think it does a great job of calculating what a competitors corrected score is based on other shooters in attendance.

Unfortunately, it's seriously complicated; I don't think most people would understand how the classification score is calculated. Also, it seems that it's possible to go up/down in classification without having shot a match. Try explaining that to some people. :D
 
Currently the Ontario system like the USPSA system only allows you to go up, A shooter would have to make a substantiated plea with proof of infirmity to be reclassified down to a lower level.
HHF will only go up as it is only the average of the top shooters who generally get better with practice.
 
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