IPSC International Production category 9mm: Glock or CZ SP-01 Shadow?

Which pistol for IPSC international production class?

  • Glock 17 with factory extended mag release.

    Votes: 20 16.4%

  • CZ SP-01 Shadow

    Votes: 91 74.6%

  • Other (please specify what and why)

    Votes: 11 9.0%
  • Total voters
    122
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Hi again all,

I'm interested in your opinion on this matter. Is one of these two a clearly better option than the other to run in IPSC production category?

1. I need to fit a factory extended mag release to the Glock to run it.
2. Which one is quicker back on the target?
3. Which one is more reliable to feed and fire?
4. Which one has better magazines?
5. Are there any other things I should watch out for with either pistol as regards IPSC e.g. handling quirks/safety gotchas?

Thanks,
Phil
 
At the Top of the heap at the Canadian nationals, two guns stand out - the CZ SP-01 and the Tanfoglio Stock II.
Since you've mentioned budgetary issues, the Stock II is high price (and High End) - but at this year's nationals, you're going to see STI's GP6 in the hunt for the big trophy and it's in the similar price range.

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Both my kids were shooting G17s for two years.


This past Christmas they both got Tanfoglio Stocks.

Their scores have gone up dramatically.........


As such I would say SPO1 or Stock II with zero hesitation.
 
If dicking with springs and parts from Ghost Holster, and replacing them on a regular basis floats your boat, then by all means get into the CZ.

If spending a whole pile of money on something that imho is inferior to the the CZs with double the sticker price, then go with a Tanfoglio.

If buying a pistol and running lots of ammo through it with little maintenance appeals to you, the Glock is an excellent choice, as is the M&P.

I'd be wary of buying into 'this top shooter uses this' mentality that usually permeates these threads. If you are starting out, buy a gun that fits your budget and spend the rest on ammo and practice.
 
" I love my CZ, all I had to do was change this spring, that part here, these grips and have this part worked on. Now it fires almost all the time. Hey whats that spring rattleing around in my case?:kickInTheNuts:

1: Buy a glock
2: Practice with the ammo you bought with the money you saved.
3: Practice with the ammo you would have anyway.
4: Have fun with a firearm that does not give you trouble.
5: Laugh at those who don't
:nest:
 
beltfed said:
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I'd be wary of buying into 'this top shooter uses this' mentality that usually permeates these threads. If you are starting out, buy a gun that fits your budget and spend the rest on ammo and practice.
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+1 Get a gun that fits your hand. Practice whenever you can.
 
The Tanfoglio "L" is less than a Stock 11 and more than the Shadow. Might be a good compromise. That said the CZ Shadow goes bang every time I pull the trigger, has zero issues in the first 1K rounds and is priced within a $100 of the Glock. Accuracy wise the Shadow will outshoot the Glocks and M&P's IMHO. The latter two pistols are geat duty guns but require parts to compete. The Shadow is a go out of the box.

Take Care

Bob
 
Freedom Ventures said:
At the Top of the heap at the Canadian nationals, two guns stand out - the CZ SP-01 and the Tanfoglio Stock II.
Since you've mentioned budgetary issues, the Stock II is high price (and High End) - but at this year's nationals, you're going to see STI's GP6 in the hunt for the big trophy and it's in the similar price range.
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At the top of the heap in US Nationals, one shooter stands out - he uses a Glock. :D
 
Seems like the rifling in the Shadow would have zero problems with unjacketed ammo. How does it feed with plain old LRN cast bullets? Are there any safety caveats?
 
at the NS and NB provincials last year,...the 1,2,3,4th were almost the same
NS =stock2, Shadow, Stock2, shadow
NB= Stock2, shadow, stock2, stock 2

I would guess the ONtario provincials were similiar ,....I think it was Stock2,.Stock2,..stock2?
 
I think we're splitting hairs...but Sevigny has also won the World Championships (omong his many other titles)

8-Time USPSA National Champion
7-Time IDPA National Champion
6-Time IDPA Winter/Indoor National Champion
2-Time TSA National Champion
2-Time Steel Challenge World IDPA Champion
2-Time Winchester World Challenge Champion
2-Time Steel Challenge National Rimfire Champion
Light & Laser Invitational Champion
Steel Challenge World Rimfire Champion
Steel Challenge National Steel Master Champion
Steel Challenge National Limited Champion
Bianchi Cup National Production Champion
IPSC World & Pan American Production Champion


Regardless...these guys (Sevigny, Jarrett, Graffel etc) are not human...so I doubt they would get much better (or worse) by changing equipment.




Canuck44 said:
At the top of the Worlds one shooter stands out and he shoots a CZ Shadow.:D, as did the winning team.

Take Care

Bob
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I voted other, the other being a CZ75B only because when I shoot my buddies SP01 it stovepipes regularily, my CZ75B has never has a glitch in close to 4000 rounds. Try the CZ and the glock in your hand, draw it up to aim and see which one finds its target naturally, if you are like me it will be the CZ, the glock I have to roll the front down for target aquisition because of the angle of the grip.
 
Canuck44 said:
Accuracy wise the Shadow will outshoot the Glocks and M&P's IMHO.
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I'd disagree as a whole with Canuck44 on this one, and regardless, the accuracy required in IPSC is well within the realm of virtually every pistol out there...shooters and time taken to clean plate racks vary:D, but ultimately the bullet goes were the sights are pointed.;)
 
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