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I am sure this must have been brought up before, but why has IPSC not been officially recognized along with Olympic style shooting? I have seen both, and I am not bashing Olympic style at all, but there seems to be more interest in IPSC and more involvement in it as a sport. I know the CSSA recognizes it along with PPC/CPPC, but who's "official recognition" would we be looking for.....? I have heard mag limitation exemption was applied for, but denied.
 
maurice said:
I am sure this must have been brought up before, but why has IPSC not been officially recognized along with Olympic style shooting? I have seen both, and I am not bashing Olympic style at all, but there seems to be more interest in IPSC and more involvement in it as a sport. I know the CSSA recognizes it along with PPC/CPPC, but who's "official recognition" would we be looking for.....? ...snip... .
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That's a good question. "Who?"

I can tell you that as RD of IPSC Canada, I have been invited to a discussion group with the Registrar (head honcho at CFC) on the most recent firearms bill's (C-10) roll out.

Previous RDs have had discussions with Justice Ministers and have stood in front of Federal Justice Committees to make their case against gun laws.

The CFC certainly knows all about IPSC. If it's them that needs to recognize someone, they could easily recognize IPSC. If it's the Liberal caucus, it's another story - as I doubt they'll recognize anyone except the Olympics because it furthers thier plan to disarm Canadians.

BTW, I'm pretty sure that the Olympics have done away with firearms and only use air guns now, so isn't their recognition irrelevant?
 
From the Olympics website:

LIST OF EVENTS (shooting sports, summer)


• 10m air pistol (40 shots) Women
• 10m air pistol (60 shots) Men
• 10m air rifle (40 shots) Women
• 10m air rifle (60 shots) Men
• 10m running target (30+30 shot Men
• 25m pistol (30+30 shots) Women
• 25m rapid fire pistol (60 shot Men
• 50m pistol (60 shots) Men
• 50m rifle 3 positions (3x20 shots) Women
• 50m rifle 3 positions (3x40 sh Men
• 50m rifle prone (60 shots) Men
• double trap (120 targets) Women
• double trap (150 targets) Men
• skeet (125 targets) Men
• skeet (75 targets) Women
• trap (125 targets) Men
• trap (75 targets) Women

there's also Biathlon in the winter Olympics

they may have since gone to airguns only, but haven't seen anything on it.
 
In summer Olympics, I see 4 rifle events, 3 pistol events, and 3 shotgun events.... this is in addition to the airgun events.

In winter Olympics, I believe it's just the biathalon.

There are less and less real (ie non-airgun) shooting events, but they're still there.

-ivan-
 
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You're not going to get any further comment out of the Liberals about who they will or will not recognize until they decide (and have the ability ) to move forward on this. It's a vague policy. They don't want anything more descriptive; it would make it too difficult to manipulate it if elected.

Remember: This was an election promise, they can only make good on it if they get the first step accomplished; they get elected. So don't let them get elected!!!
 
Thanks Guys - I could have sworn I heard something about them (The olympic committee) doing away with the firearm parts - back when IPSC was trying to get recognized as an Olympic sport.

I stand well corrected.
 
The polls look good BTW, just have to keep it going (PCP-up,, LIB-Down)
I wonder if any other country has IPSC as officially as an Olympic shooting sport? That would be a good place to gain information.
 
they made ball room dansing a medal event maybe ipsc got a chance if you dress up in a tux, just jokin of course..............good luck but 1st beat the liberals on jan 23rd..........
nuff said
 
maurice said:
The polls look good BTW, just have to keep it going (PCP-up,, LIB-Down)
I wonder if any other country has IPSC as officially as an Olympic shooting sport? That would be a good place to gain information.
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It was reported in the July/August 2005 Front Sight (The USPSA publication) that IPSC had been turned down as a provisional member of the General Association of Internation Sports Federations (GAISF), which is apparently an important step in getting recognized as an Olympic sport.

IPSC was among 5 other sports that was turned down, against the recommendations of the GAISF Council. The other sports were Crossbow, Dragon Boating, Kickboxing and Muy Thai.

Without inclusion in the GAISF, I doubt very much that any country CAN recognize IPSC as an Olympic sport. I'm sure that responsibility would lie with the IOC.
 
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It was reported in the July/August 2005 Front Sight (The USPSA publication) that IPSC had been turned down as a provisional member of the General Association of Internation Sports Federations (GAISF), which is apparently an important step in getting recognized as an Olympic sport.

IPSC was among 5 other sports that was turned down, against the recommendations of the GAISF Council. The other sports were Crossbow, Dragon Boating, Kickboxing and Muy Thai.

Without inclusion in the GAISF, I doubt very much that any country CAN recognize IPSC as an Olympic sport. I'm sure that responsibility would lie with the IOC.
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Yes, that's the polite version. Nick briefed us all at the Gerneral Assembly (GA). IPSC had been working for a couple years to get recognized in GAISF. They had submitted all the paperwork, and spent considerable money on it. (He thanked Dave Skinner from STI, Frank Resca from Rescomp and Iray Kay from C-More for some very generous donations to IPSC to do up the very professional presentations - each spent $20K) When they got to the assembly, IPSC and the 4 other sports vying for the recognition, made their presentations and were told to wait outside while the group deliberated. This was odd because there was never any closed door deliberations before. Very shortly after, all groups were told that they were not accepted.

The story goes that ISU/ISF is in GAISF now, and they control shooting there. They see IPSC as a threat since it is not coming in under their umbrella - it is a separate sport. They apparently told the board while the doors were closed that IPSC is not a sport and that it is a combat training organization and got IPSCs application squashed. Apparently the same thing happened to the dragon boat guys as they were up against the yachting organization. The president of the GAISF has had a big stink about it since. At the GA, Nick asked the GA if he should go on the offensive against the ISU organization and the GA agreed for him to take it to whatever level he wanted. IPSC is going back again this year to apply for this recognition. A little wiser in the ways of the GAISF...

Don't get the SFC in Canada confused in this - IPSC Canada and SFC get along just fine and there's no issues there. This is at the international level and a mess of Europeans arguing for power and money. In Europe, GAISF recognized sports get grants and funding from the countries and it's easy to guess how this influences things.

Nick Alexakos, the IPSC president has kind of made this his signature issue for IPSC. He's spent a lot of time and energy on it. 5 years ago, I didn't think it was a big deal to North Americans, just to the Europeans - but I certainly can see how important it is now. The GA is adamantly behind Nick on this and is hoping that this time, things will be played a little more honestly and we'll get in.
 
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Very intresting info.
Its strange that canada does not see ipsc as a sport, is it not the only true worldwide shooting sport?
Even in contrys where handguns are baned they have an ipsc team.
Japan , Uk, mexico.....
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