I agree...
Why no love for the red dot?
all other things being equal, irons will never be better than a reddot, other than for target shooting known size targets..
Just my .02
I wouldn’t suggest getting a 1-4X9, scope. If you ever end up shooting at a running buck at 10 yards, you’ll come to regret that choice pretty quickly. That’s why I don’t use them in the bush anymore. I’d d/t for a peep all things being equal.
When speed is king...irons are the ticket. Not fast and accurate to a goodly distance...but fast and close...see many service pistols with glass? Or shotguns...mostly not.
I'm sure the PH's run irons out of tradition...uh not likely. "Traditionally we take chances with our high paying customers...because that's how it's always been done"...
If a Holo or Red Dot was better...they'd probably run them.
Hey, OP is happy with Red Dot crack on. But up close, personal, dangerous and fast...iron's for the win in my world.
I've never seen someone shoot faster or more accurately with irons than a red dot. That goes for both beginners and seasoned shooters.
People may have preferences but mechanically there is no way that lining up sights on a target is going to be faster than putting a dot on the target.
I wouldn’t suggest getting a 1-4X9, scope. If you ever end up shooting at a running buck at 10 yards, you’ll come to regret that choice pretty quickly. That’s why I don’t use them in the bush anymore. I’d d/t for a peep all things being equal.
How would a 1-4 (set on 1x) be a bad choice at a moving target of 10yds. It's ZERO magnification which is the same a receiver sight.
Very true SuperCub, I've used that setup before but I'm the dog man that goes through with the hounds and on multiple occasions I've come out of a chase and my scope lenses were caked in snow. This is the 1 and only reason I dont run a scope on my dogging rifle. If it wasn't for that I would run a 1-4 or 1.5-5 and leave it parked on low
When speed is king...irons are the ticket. Not fast and accurate to a goodly distance...but fast and close...see many service pistols with glass? Or shotguns...mostly not.
I'm sure the PH's run irons out of tradition...uh not likely. "Traditionally we take chances with our high paying customers...because that's how it's always been done"...
If a Holo or Red Dot was better...they'd probably run them.
Hey, OP is happy with Red Dot crack on. But up close, personal, dangerous and fast...iron's for the win in my world.
more than one like phil and taj shoemaker or finn aagard has demonstrated in the past low power scope or red dot are faster to acquire and shoot precisely than any open sights ... easthetic and real use can be contridactory like any human and i do remember Paul (SC) telling me it is way less expensive to get a second scope ready to go than getting a real safari open sights kind and still agree with him.
How would a 1-4 (set on 1x) be a bad choice at a moving target of 10yds. It's ZERO magnification which is the same a receiver sight.
I’ve been there and done it. Not very easy to frame them up when their running you over. That’s been my experience, and most of my deer hunting has been spent dogging in the bush. If they don’t run to the watches, or squirt out the sides they sit tight and bust on the doggers at the last second. To each their own and your mileage may vary as they say.
Using irons can also make a rifle much handier to carry.
I agree, I would be using iron sights on most rifles if my eyesight would allow it, but that is no longer an option. The 1.5-5X20 set at 1.5X is a very good scope in the bush... it helps to separate the target from the brush.




























