Is the XD45 single action or not?

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I was reading this review on the XD45 and the author said it was "the best double action trigger he had felt" and that "it's not a true double action."

so what the hell is going on here? I thought the XD was SA all the time. I would love to hear that the XD is a double action. I want to carry it for protection at work (yes, I would have an ATC) and double action would be nice to pop something without cocking it. But I don't believe it.
 
It's a single action, but the trigger feels as if it is a relatively light and smooth double action. Don't worry. It's a really safe design, and yet a point and click interface. No manual safeties and such.
 
It's "sort of" double-action, but not as much as a Glock; when the slide on the XD cycles, it partially cocks the striker, and pulling the trigger finishes cocking the striker then releases it. In the Glock, pulling the trigger completely cocks the striker, but it requires the slide to cycle to get to the point where the trigger-bar can pick the striker up in the first place.
 
So you could carry a round in chamber and be pretty safe? Since the striker is not fully cocked. Only pulling the trigger would allow the firearm to go off.
 
If the XD is single action how come it can be used in IPSC has a production gun??? I mean I know when they first came in they got pulled of the list to use in matches under a production gun. Then it came back on the list some how saying that it was double action???
 
SDC said:
It's "sort of" double-action, but not as much as a Glock; when the slide on the XD cycles, it partially cocks the striker, and pulling the trigger finishes cocking the striker then releases it. In the Glock, pulling the trigger completely cocks the striker, but it requires the slide to cycle to get to the point where the trigger-bar can pick the striker up in the first place.
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Stacey, you are an all-knowing guru of firearms, but you're incorrect, here.

The XD is completely cocked by the action of cycling the slide. Pulling the trigger merely pivots a sear out of the way of the striker.

Yes, the pivoting action of the sear incidentally moves the striker rearward a couple of thousandths, but it is 100% single action, as the striker was retracted more than sufficiently to detonate the primer.

The Smith and Wesson M&P and the new Steyr M series use this action, also.
 
explicent_content said:
If the XD is single action how come it can be used in IPSC has a production gun??? I mean I know when they first came in they got pulled of the list to use in matches under a production gun. Then it came back on the list some how saying that it was double action???
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Because the "DA first shot" requirement was changed to "DA first shot or Striker Fired".

Also, the word you are groping for is "explicit". I've never actually seen a mis-spelled username before.
 
Bartledan said:
Stacey, you are an all-knowing guru of firearms, but you're incorrect, here.
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:D I'll defer to you on this one, since I don't own one, and I don't think the owners of the ones I've handled would've appreciated me cutting their slides in half. It certainly seemed like the trigger-travel did more than just release the striker.
 
For simplicty sake I consider the xd a DAO gun, and yes in a good holster safe to leave the round chamberd. If I were to use .45acp for wilderness protection it would be with realy warm 230grain swc, or 200grain swc. Just don't use 230grain ball... It doesn't go through bone for crap(my own testing on variouse dead animals, and animal parts)

Its nice to have a club that is quite flexible on target composition. :)
 
It is neither a Single action or Double action. No matter how many times you pull the trigger on an empty chamber... the trigger will not reset itself... It requires the slide to complete the cocking action... as with a Glock and most other striker fired pistols... hence not a Double action pistol.

Here is a link that explains it a bit better:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_160_26/ai_92585765/pg_5
 
SDC said:
It's "sort of" double-action, but not as much as a Glock; when the slide on the XD cycles, it partially cocks the striker, and pulling the trigger finishes cocking the striker then releases it. In the Glock, pulling the trigger completely cocks the striker, but it requires the slide to cycle to get to the point where the trigger-bar can pick the striker up in the first place.
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No, when the slide cycles on the XD, the striker is 100% cocked, there is no travel of the striker as the trigger moves except to release, hence single action. On the glock, the striker is partially reset, the trigger does not cycle the entire reset, that is why they call it their saftey trigger and not DAO like the taurus 24/7. It is as safe to carry loaded as the glock for the same reasons as the glock, the saftey in the trigger (and the grip saftey on the XD) must be compressed or the trigger link will not release the striker.
 
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SDC said:
:D I'll defer to you on this one, since I don't own one, and I don't think the owners of the ones I've handled would've appreciated me cutting their slides in half. It certainly seemed like the trigger-travel did more than just release the striker.
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Cheers, dude :)

They deliberately beefed up the take-up until it felt as long and stiff as a Glock, and called it "Ultra Safe Action".

Pop, you crazy bugger, whatever else you've read, the XD is single action in exactly the same sense as a bolt action Enfield is single action.
 
Bartledan said:
Cheers, dude :)

They deliberately beefed up the take-up until it felt as long and stiff as a Glock, and called it "Ultra Safe Action".

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I'd debate that one, to me glock triggers suck rocks, whereas my XD 9 has broken in nice and smooth, but I'm biased, I really dislike glocks.....:D
 
yup the Smith is definitely Single action. there is no possibility of the sear doing anything other than being pulled down and out of the way of the striker. Same as the XD. the XD is not anything other than Single Action. Glock, as much as it pains me to say, is technically DAO, as the striker is partially cocked by the pulling of the trigger.
 
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