Is this a bullet failure?

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I have been argueing with a friend of mine who insists this Nosler Partition bullet failed. I say that the fact the bear is in the freezer and we have the bullet in hand to argue about it is proof positive that the bullet did not fail by did it's job perfectly. He insists that the seperated core is the failure and that if the bullet had functioned properly there would have been no seperation and full penetration should have occured. It did have to penetrate one shoulder but that is the same shot I take every year. Ironincally, this NP seperated when shot from a 30-30 Model 94 w/18" pipe not the 300WM I typically use.
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the front core popped free of the jacket. Partitions arent bonded, so it happens

often you will recover Nosler Partitions with little or no lead in the front. great game bullets, the benchmark of all hunting bullets :cool:
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Both the partition and the accubond are desgned for ~ 65% wieght retention so I'd bet that you are inside that, also think of the second peice as a real big secondary projectile.

Big initial expansion and the rear core to punch deeper hat was no failure, that is SOP for a partition.
 
No failure. Many recovered Nosler Partitions are totally minus the front core and the jacket is flattened out against the partition. In this state the weight of the recovered bullet is a lot more than that of most similiar weighted standard constructed bullets.
 
looks ok to me. if that 30 30 had a little more speed the rear core would have passed thru and wouldn't be avalable for pics. i have only recovered one partition in many years of hunting and it didn't look a lot better. went aprox three feet thru a moose and ended up under the hide on the off side. moose was dead so i guess the partition didn't fail.
 
Like Tod and others mentioned, the tip normaly comes off I shot a whitetail last year with a 30-06 180 NP hit the front shoulder the tip went down into the heart the back went up and broke the spine? I know sounds impossible with one shot, heart shoulder and spine, you got to love the nosler parts!
But I have seen this more than once it happened to me with a 7mm-08 hit bone and the tip broke off and was lodged under the skin on the back of the animal as the back passed through the rib cage.
them are the only 2 animal I killed with the NPs both did the same.
Thats how they work.
 
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Here's a picture of the remains of a 180 gr Nosler Part fired from a .300 Win mag at approx 3000 fps MV. The moose was angling away when the bullet hit, breaking the two rear-most ribs on the left side. It destroyed both lungs and was found under the hide ahead of the front right shoulder. Range was about 30 yds. Pretty typical performance and the meat was great.

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Mauser98 said:
Here's a picture of the remains of a 180 gr Nosler Part fired from a .300 Win mag at approx 3000 fps MV. The moose was angling away when the bullet hit, breaking the two rear-most ribs on the left side. It destroyed both lungs and was found under the hide ahead of the front right shoulder. Range was about 30 yds. Pretty typical performance and the meat was great.

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Yep, that is the way a partition is supposed to work!:D
 
I have shot a lot of Partitions at game, and have probably recovered about 20% of them. If a Partition has some front core in it after doing it's job, that is more unusual than if it loses that front core. I certainly would not call that one you have a failure, it's what us Partition shooters have come to expect....good solid performance and meat in the freezer!!:D Here's my pic of recovered Partitions [one missing, I have 15 now (from 2005 elk)] Regards, Eagleye.
 
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if this is a hijack, sorry
last hunting season my dad had a failure with a nosler bt 150 grn out of a 30-06 at 300 paced yards
hit the deer in the lungs, it ran about 30 meters then collapsed
when we retrieved the bullet from the opposite side, only the tip broke off and we found it in three tiny pieces(the little green tip)!
the rest of the bullet didn't even slightly mushroom, you could literally reload the bullet as a hollow point!
kinda freaky no?
 
Partitons are designed to do that, this is one of the reasons that make them so great.


Your friend FAILED to understand what a Partition does.



hetchster,
your dad's bullet could have been tumbling when it hit the deer, was there any brush in the way, especaly right where the deer was standing?
 
I'm surprised to hear so many people reporting core seperation with Partitions. Every picture I've seen (mostly marketing material) shows a bullet with the front core looking like the top of a perfect mushroom. This is the first NP that hasn't penetrated completely so I was somewhat surprised to see the core missing. Thanks guys, looks like I'm getting a FREE Timmies tomorrow!
 
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Partitons are designed to do that, this is one of the reasons that make them so great.


Your friend FAILED to understand what a Partition does.



hetchster,
your dad's bullet could have been tumbling when it hit the deer, was there any brush in the way, especaly right where the deer was standing?
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if memory serves me correct it was straight across a ravine, but the deer may have been in small willows, perhaps that is the solution
but the weird thing is there is literally no damage to the bullet and it passed thru ribs and such
i will have to get a picture of it...
 
I would say that it worked perfectly.

The peeled jacket is just a bonus and possibly acted like a razor blade.

If the front lead core was still there, then I would say that it failed.

RePete.
 
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