Is this a "variant of", it is sure not "by name" evil - Turkish MPT-76

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Is this a "variant of", it is sure not "by name" evil - Turkish MPT-76

Can we get these in a limited edition semi only please? While we wait for SARP that is.

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Interesting question about what "really" makes it a variant. I looked at the bolt head. Looks like an AR to me. However, this has so many features and characteristics that Eugene Stoner never ever imagined. The extensive use of polymers, piston driven, no carrying handle, and ambi' controls. If it is a variant, wouldn't it have to be immediately attributable to him?

(Oh, silly me! We're talking about the same classification scheme that hates .22LR rifles with plastic left and right shells.)
 
Btw I do know the whole background story how the ar and m4 were all going to be prohibed but due to the nfa and service matches they saved the ar from prohibed status. But I remember reading the argument the antis had that which we all know is false. Was on the how a full auto trigger group could drop right in. Which was an argument made my RCMP lab.
But there is so many reasons to throw the at under the bus. It's looks scary. It could be converted ! On and on! Now I know these are all ridiculous ideas. Sadly though I could see the Turkish rifle follow suit. But I do wonder how c-42 could or have any affect on this rifle
Now I know variant is a scary word and definition. I want nothing more then to see these NR but I imagine this particular rifle would fall under variant.
 
The other issue is that the lab seems to now take YEARS to inspect and eventually approve new semis. Just another way to gunk up the worx.
 
My AR-180b has a full AR small pin trigger group in it and is non restricted. Depends more on the lower receiver in if it will accept full
Auto/burst trigger groups drop in or easily modified to.-----Dieseldog!
 
It all has to do with the lower and whether you can attach an AR upper to it and get it to fire, if that rifle will accept an AR upper it will be a variant. We've all heard the story of how the lab was able to tape an AR upper to a manufacturers sample lower and get it to fire 1 round, that sample lower was deemed a variant.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Interesting question about what "really" makes it a variant. I looked at the bolt head. Looks like an AR to me. However, this has so many features and characteristics that Eugene Stoner never ever imagined. The extensive use of polymers, piston driven, no carrying handle, and ambi' controls. If it is a variant, wouldn't it have to be immediately attributable to him?
(Oh, silly me! We're talking about the same classification scheme that hates .22LR rifles with plastic left and right shells.)
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No, use of polymers, piston or DI or anything like that is irrelevant.
 
RickR1100 said:
The other issue is that the lab seems to now take YEARS to inspect and eventually approve new semis. Just another way to gunk up the worx.
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This is the biggest hurdle IMO. Do you wait two to three years for a possible NR FRT or just get on with selling them?
How would it work out if you've got a sample being assessed for NR status and Irunguns brings one in and is willing to accept a Restricted classification?
 
hillbillywilly85 said:
Btw I do know the whole background story how the ar and m4 were all going to be prohibed but due to the nfa and service matches they saved the ar from prohibed status. But I remember reading the argument the antis had that which we all know is false. Was on the how a full auto trigger group could drop right in. Which was an argument made my RCMP lab.
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DCRA - not NFA.
 
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