Israeli TZ80 ammo dangerous?

[Steiner]

Ok, I have some Israeli .308 ammo dated 11/80. I've read this may be dangerous due to brittle brass. Has anyone here had any experience with it? Anyone know the production months for potentially troublesome ammo?

 

[Satain]

Ok, I have some Israeli .308 ammo dated 11/80. I've read this may be dangerous due to brittle brass. Has anyone here had any experience with it? Anyone know the production months for potentially troublesome ammo?

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Templarx12-19-2001, 02:49 AM
The Yugo ammo is great stuff. It was more accurate out of my M48 than new production S&B Czech FMJ.

I will post "Templar's Rule on Surplus Ammo", NON PC version.

I shoot surplus ammo almost exclusively, but I have formulated a rule that keeps all my digits intact and my rifles and pistols happy.

Templar's Rule:

I DO NOT SHOOT AMMUNITION FROM COUNTRIES THAT PISS IN THEIR OWN DRINKING WATER

That means, no Ecuadoran, Guatemalan, Chilean, Indian, Pakistani, Syrian, Egyptian, Turkish, or most any ammo from a "Third World" supplier. Now there are certainly amendments to the Rule. Brazil, Malaysia, Singapore, China, and Russia aren't what we'd call First World, but they do have very advanced military industrial complexes that are experienced in turning out quality ammo.

I also avoid SURPLUS Israeli ammo. THe Israeli's don't surplus ANYTHING out unless it is of absolutely no use to them anymore. I still have scars on my hand from a bad lot of TZ80 7.62x51mm that blew up a civvie legal Class 3 M60 that I was firing. It went KABOOM.

NEW Israeli ammo is excellent stuff.

I'll include NEW production South African in the "piss in drinking water" category, although military ammo form the 70's, 80's, and early 90's is excellent, and I shoot the SA surplus 5.56mm almost exclusively. Currently, the South Africans are having some serious QC problems, among other things.

Be a little wary of the new Greek "Olympic" brand....I've seen crumpled cases out of the box. Bad QC again. Surplus .303 Greek is excellent though.

Venezula makes excellent 7x57mm and OK 7.62x51mm, as long as you don't shoot it in a Vorgrimmler type rifle like a HK or CETME.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll upset a few people with my Rule, but it has honestly kept me out of trouble, except for that one batch of Izzy ammo.

Buy the Yugo ammo, those people have great experience in making things that go bang.
If you had a full auto M60 and had a primer pop how would you know untill the gun blew up!
LoL!

Here is the link;
gunsnet.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-30115.html
Plus here is another with pics of cracked brass and the bad lot;
forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?p=363686
I belive that it was TZ76 lot that was bad as you can see from pic @ the bottom of the page!

 

[TimC]

I've used it and have a few cases that have had 20+ reloads, no issues!