It's time we had a conversation about reloading primers.

Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Crazy idea right?

We've got cars that drives themselves, phones that will do everything except wipe your a$$ for you and firearms with sighting systems and projectiles that can hit a mule deer in the eye at half a kilometer...so why has the industry not developed a method to reload spent primers?
Will it take a couple more years of Zero product? When product finally returns and the cost is prohibitive will it spark a primer reloading revolution?
Can we get anvils manufactured in China by the billions?
Am I day drinking again?

** EDIT ** well okay, maybe only large rifle primers as I can't even see a SP primer in my hand without muh glasses anymore!


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I’d rather re use toilet paper.
 
For all the folks saying it's not worth the time , I wonder how Corbin bullet swaging maintains a business. Definitely time consuming , medium amount of expensive equip. to get started in one calibre , yet they seem to make a go of it. If a person didn't stockpile and new stock doesn't seem to be forthcoming...what are your options to continue shooting ?
 
LUCK12 said:
For all the folks saying it's not worth the time , I wonder how Corbin bullet swaging maintains a business. Definitely time consuming , medium amount of expensive equip. to get started in one calibre , yet they seem to make a go of it. If a person didn't stockpile and new stock doesn't seem to be forthcoming...what are your options to continue shooting ?
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The USA is always our canary in a coal mine.
Every time there has been a shortage of reloading components it has been after the USA has gone through some kind of buying panic.
When I saw the shortages starting I picked up an additional 5,000 of each small and large rifle Benchrest primers, along with 5,000 large pistol primers.

Yes I should have bought small pistol primers also but I only had 1 pistol at the time that used those.
This was in addition to my existing stock which wasn’t zero but it wasn’t 10,000 of each size either.
The point being that for about $1,000 I gave myself peace of mind and if I wanted to could have easily doubled and tripled my money..

It is far easier for me to do additional work in my field to earn that $1,000 and buy primers than it would be for me to try and make primers one at a time.
 
I done exactly as you did. Didn't need to be a brain surgeon to know that when supplies ran dry in the US and we still had some here it was only because our volume of consumption here is much less than the US and when our warehouses would ruin dry we would be without for a good while.
 
thump_rrr said:
The USA is always our canary in a coal mine.
Every time there has been a shortage of reloading components it has been after the USA has gone through some kind of buying panic.
When I saw the shortages starting I picked up an additional 5,000 of each small and large rifle Benchrest primers, along with 5,000 large pistol primers.

Yes I should have bought small pistol primers also but I only had 1 pistol at the time that used those.
This was in addition to my existing stock which wasn’t zero but it wasn’t 10,000 of each size either.
The point being that for about $1,000 I gave myself peace of mind and if I wanted to could have easily doubled and tripled my money..

It is far easier for me to do additional work in my field to earn that $1,000 and buy primers than it would be for me to try and make primers one at a time.
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I used to have a tool that was made to cut aluminum from pop cans into a biscuit and then you punched it into a forming cup, which was machined to accept the cutter to align it with the cup forming die.

It utilized scrounged anvils from fired primers and the ignition compound was made up from a couple of different formulas, all of which were corrosive.

Back in the 60s, it was quite common for DIYs, who were knowledgeable as well as handy with tools to make such gizmos up. They were usually preppers, preparing for doomsday scenarios.
 
LUCK12 said:
For all the folks saying it's not worth the time , I wonder how Corbin bullet swaging maintains a business. Definitely time consuming , medium amount of expensive equip. to get started in one calibre , yet they seem to make a go of it. If a person didn't stockpile and new stock doesn't seem to be forthcoming...what are your options to continue shooting ?
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Making your own bullets is not the same as reloading primers...
 
Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Never claimed to be the first to think of it and I get the gist of the homebrew methods on youtube. I'm talking about some form of commercial tools and product that make it feasible for a hobbyist to re-prime in a reasonable amount of time and minimum amount of cost.

Necessity is the mother of invention and this is certainly not the first time we've been short on primers but never has the price gone up so rapidly.
To the fellas who repeat the saying "shoulda bought when available" I get it... but can these same people claim to know when we will see a steady supply again or most importantly will the price ever stabilize?

I've got thousands of primers on hand but realize that every single one I touch-off has to be replaced by a primer that went from 4 cents to 14 cents in a span of a year, a reality we all have to face unless we simply stop shooting.
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I don't know why primer manufacturers would be able to supply components to reload primers any faster than they can supply whole primers.
 
jethunter said:
I don't know why primer manufacturers would be able to supply components to reload primers any faster than they can supply whole primers.
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Considering how primers are typically made it would actually slow things down even further. I'd also like to know how you are going to safely seat the anvil onto the compound without risking it going off?

That is another problem taken care of by the standard methods of creating a primer. I guess maybe you could do it wet and hope for the best. I wonder how many shots would be ruined from primers not fully dried in that case...
 
Way, way too dangerous. You'd be fooling with REAL explosive material - orders of magnitude more explosive than reloading powder.
 
B said:
Making your own bullets is not the same as reloading primers...
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Entirely true , the comparison was more toward the amount of time and conviction put towards the wanted object. As for availability , the EE has 1000 primers for asking price of 2,000.00 Not to say that it may or may not be a sarcastic post , at that price I think I might try a bit.
 
B said:
Considering how primers are typically made it would actually slow things down even further. I'd also like to know how you are going to safely seat the anvil onto the compound without risking it going off?

That is another problem taken care of by the standard methods of creating a primer. I guess maybe you could do it wet and hope for the best. I wonder how many shots would be ruined from primers not fully dried in that case...
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Primers are assembled with the priming compound wet. There is no danger of the compound going off during assembly.

The anvil is not fully seated until the primer is installed in the case. There is virtually no danger of the compound going off simply from slight compression. It requires a pretty decent and specific impact to set a primer off.



cuslog said:
Way, way too dangerous. You'd be fooling with REAL explosive material - orders of magnitude more explosive than reloading powder.
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Gunpowder is NOT an explosive. It does not explode, it burns .... or deflagrates. Confined, it does this very quickly but it is still not an explosive in any manner.
 
Sadly - as we have all seen this is a weak link in being able to enjoy shooting. I wouldn't be surprised if limiting/stopping production of these is on the list of things for the anti's to do in the future. Brass can be reloaded multiple times, projectiles can be made, even black powder can be made with not a whole lot of difficulty. Reloading/making primers is truly some end of days $h1t...
If they confiscate guns... many will not comply and criminals will buy illegally. Then they stop importation of ammo... you can always reload from your stock... until you run dry on primers.
 
Sun_and_Steel_77 said:
Never claimed to be the first to think of it and I get the gist of the homebrew methods on youtube. I'm talking about some form of commercial tools and product that make it feasible for a hobbyist to re-prime in a reasonable amount of time and minimum amount of cost.

Necessity is the mother of invention and this is certainly not the first time we've been short on primers but never has the price gone up so rapidly.
To the fellas who repeat the saying "shoulda bought when available" I get it... but can these same people claim to know when we will see a steady supply again or most importantly will the price ever stabilize?

I've got thousands of primers on hand but realize that every single one I touch-off has to be replaced by a primer that went from 4 cents to 14 cents in a span of a year, a reality we all have to face unless we simply stop shooting.
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I’ve seen them as high as $50 for a hundred
 
People have made their own. Unfortunately the govnmt is way ahead of you. Just try and find the components. Paper cap gun caps.....gone. Strike anywhere matches.....gone. H-48 components.....gone.
 
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