Anyone have one? I bought one not too long ago from TradeEx and boy am I impressed! This manufacturer really knew how to make a quality shotgun back in the day. Beautiful wood, nice engraving, excellent workmanship, very functional and a great shooter. What's not to like.
J. P. Sauer & Sohn double barrel shotgun
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BigUglyMan
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The old man has a couple of them. Amazing guns. I know that the older one is so well fitted that it won't close if you put a cigarette paper on the water table. Who says the brits have the market cornered on quality?
gunsaholic
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- Winnipeg, Manitoba
And just think, the ones at tradeex are the lower end Sauers. I have a Sauer sidelock from 1910. It was a drilling at one time but at some point the lower rifle barrel was removed by a professional gunsmith who really knew what he was doing. With the rifle barrel removed, it is a light, wonderful handling upland gun of very high quality. It even has a horn trigger guard.
ninepointer
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- Central Ontario
Dang, I wish those Bavarians weren't so discriminatory against us south-paws! 
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- Barrie, Ontario
I have a S&S Royal. 20g. would love to find one in 12g but not sure if they were ever made.
Beautiful firearm. I mean BEAUTIFUL. Proper case hardening, tolerances are tight even after running hundreds if not thousands of rounds.
C
Beautiful firearm. I mean BEAUTIFUL. Proper case hardening, tolerances are tight even after running hundreds if not thousands of rounds.
C
gunsaholic
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- Winnipeg, Manitoba
My grandfather bought a 12 gauge Royal in about 1961. I tried acquiring it from my uncle 2 years ago. It has been neglected ever since my uncle got it in 1971. Now he's in a nursing home and I don't know what became of it. Really pissed me off. I was going to get it restored and keep it in the family.
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Sling swivels are quite popular for the European guns , I like them myself but only have them on a few.
Nice to have when you are walking behind the dogs all day, or setting a spread .
Cat
Personally I am more in the English camp. Sling swivels on a double gun is like lipstick on a pig to me.
gunsaholic
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I have a number of vintage doubles, probably half with swivels, half without. I can take them either way meaning I wouldn't pass up a nice gun if it had swivels.
Sling swivels are nice to have for the long walk back to the truck after a long day in the field --- specially for old farts like me.
Another overlooked fact about slings on shotguns is that they preserve the case colors. It's not uncommon to find a European gun retaining almost all its case color whereas you very seldom see American guns with much color remaining. This is not that the Euro case color is better than on this side of the pond but rather that North Americans tend to carry then in hand. Personally, I don't mine slings on my shotguns and do not find them un-attractive (Eye of the beholder)
Cheers, John
Another overlooked fact about slings on shotguns is that they preserve the case colors. It's not uncommon to find a European gun retaining almost all its case color whereas you very seldom see American guns with much color remaining. This is not that the Euro case color is better than on this side of the pond but rather that North Americans tend to carry then in hand. Personally, I don't mine slings on my shotguns and do not find them un-attractive (Eye of the beholder)
Cheers, John
From a hunting standpoint the drawback with slings is you tend to have your gun slung over your shoulder when it should be in your mitts. Especially when that tight sitting partridge boils out from under your feet. To each their own. It would be a pretty uninteresting forum if we all thought the same.
This is my 16ga -- Model 8 with grade V! engraving.
You sure have a nice collection of shotguns Grouser
I close my eyes and can see the dog a pocket full of old paper imperials, vintage wool hunting clothes and maybe even a package of red man in the top pocket
Cheers
I am fond of older Italian shotguns, but I am not very fond of the sling swivels that they often come equipped with. A gun that needs to be slung is too heavy for my upland hunting. I will not say that I have never wished for a sling, but not often.
So, if I leave the sling off, the sling swivel stud on the butt-stock catches on clothing or my upland strap vest.
One could install flush mount sling bases, I guess. I have just removed the stud where necessary.
So, if I leave the sling off, the sling swivel stud on the butt-stock catches on clothing or my upland strap vest.
One could install flush mount sling bases, I guess. I have just removed the stud where necessary.
- Location
- Barrie, Ontario
This is my 16ga -- Model 8 with grade V! engraving.
You sure have a nice collection of shotguns Grouser
I close my eyes and can see the dog a pocket full of old paper imperials, vintage wool hunting clothes and maybe even a package of red man in the top pocket
Cheers
The romanticism of old iron. One of many reasons to keep it alive and around.
C
ninepointer
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I prefer a sling on all guns (shotguns and rifles). However none of my doubles have sling swivels, only because none of them come from continental Europe. The "continental" hunters I know would turn their noses up at a gun not wearing a sling, as well as at the hunter carrying it !
!I recently aquired a 16g Sauer. It looks identical to the model 8 pictured without the same level of engraving. Not sure what model it is. Beautiful gun. 27.5" bbls , IC/MOD. If anybody here is a Sauer expert I would love the input and can post pictures. I consider the Sauers to be incredible value in a double.
As for the swivels, I like the idea. I will be using them at the end of the hunt only with a removeable leather sling. Nice having both hands free when walking a bird dog back to the truck. When we get close to the road I always leash him.
As for the swivels, I like the idea. I will be using them at the end of the hunt only with a removeable leather sling. Nice having both hands free when walking a bird dog back to the truck. When we get close to the road I always leash him.
