JB-TEK SKS MOUNT @ murrays gunsmithing

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asomer

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I'm eyeing up the JB-TEK mount @ murrays gunsmithing for my bubba SKS. they are made of 6061 T6 aluminum and are fixed with 4 8-40 screws. however i cant seems to find any user reviews on it, does anybody here have any experience with this mount? the info would be greatly appreciated.

my plan is to rock a aimpoint PRO with a A.R.M.S. #22M68 low mount . i feel this will be a relatively good setup for quicker target acquisition and low light shots. Also hopefully not having to worry about my zero shifting like it has with the other none drill and tap mounts.

potential pros: rigid, 4 points of contact, short, holds zero, see through for iron sights, and can still use stripper clips.

cons: drill tap mount, removal of mount to service the bolt, bolt carrier, spring, and dust cover.

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I haven't used this style but I have used the 'dust-cover' style. I sold the last one I had mounted and looking for another. I was able to adjust mine so it held Z well, the 'ears' can be carefully bent as long as you don't break them off :rolleyes:
This looks to allow using the irons if the gap is enough. One thing I've read is that D&T needs to be done with 'high-quality' drill bits, not HSS but good Carbide ones.
 
asomer: i wouldnt go with jb-tek mount. holes on the mount are elongated so when the screws become loose the mount will move also not a big fan of complete removal just to do field stripping.
 
That's a good point, Curtton. An alternative I'm looking at is mounting a red-dot on a barrel mount out front. The mounts are avail on A-zone for $15 or so. However, I wouldn't put an expensive one there until I was sure I liked the sight picture and it was comfortable to shoot. I dunno about the recoil & shock being out there, too. A fellow did this with a TR-25 and says he's run mag-dumps and no probs on his YT vid comments? I found this on sks boards com a few years ago - here is the YT vid ->
 
Buck1950 said:
That's a good point, Curtton. An alternative I'm looking at is mounting a red-dot on a barrel mount out front. The mounts are avail on A-zone for $15 or so. However, I wouldn't put an expensive one there until I was sure I liked the sight picture and it was comfortable to shoot. I dunno about the recoil & shock being out there, too. A fellow did this with a TR-25 and says he's run mag-dumps and no probs on his YT vid comments? I found this on sks boards com a few years ago - here is the YT vid ->
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Guy was banned here. Was many threads he started how great it was, went on like he invented the wheel, but you can buy them for 5$. Personally I think it's stupid having a optic soo far forward and no fov. Better off with just a peep rear sight.
 
Curtton said:
asomer: i wouldnt go with jb-tek mount. holes on the mount are elongated so when the screws become loose the mount will move also not a big fan of complete removal just to do field stripping.
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I noticed that about the mount aswell. Maybe i can order one without the elongated holes and just drill and tap them myself.

Whats your opinion on the crazy ivan mount?
 
Suther said:
I went with a fullsize magwedge rail on my SKS so I could put a full size scope on it if I decided to (currently running a red dot).

If I was to buy something smaller, I'd go with one of the ones that replaces the rear sight with a chunk of rail. Something like this: https://www.badacetactical.com/products/sks-low-profile-ndt-red-dot-mount-with-back-up-sight
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I had that mount aswell. Wasnt very ridgid and there was a massive zero shift after the recoil of a few shots. Money wasted imho.
 
asomer said:
I noticed that about the mount aswell. Maybe i can order one without the elongated holes and just drill and tap them myself.

Whats your opinion on the crazy ivan mount?
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if i was gonna drill then crazy ivan sounds better, you are only drilling 3 holes for the rail, all on one side and easier to remove two screws on the mount for field stripping but you might havta cut pieces off the wood. similar but more expensive is the zolot.

but i dont like to drill so i've tried scout mount, barrel mount, top cover and they all failed. best but not perfect im current using is the magwedge type rail, lol.
 
OkayShooter said:
Guy was banned here. Was many threads he started how great it was, went on like he invented the wheel, but you can buy them for 5$. Personally I think it's stupid having a optic soo far forward and no fov. Better off with just a peep rear sight.
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yup, mr sask sten.
 
asomer said:
I had that mount aswell. Wasnt very ridgid and there was a massive zero shift after the recoil of a few shots. Money wasted imho.
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Well that just makes me happier that I went with the fullsize rail.

Magwedge makes a rail with a cutout to use stripper clips if you're looking for those to still be usable.
 
Suther said:
Well that just makes me happier that I went with the fullsize rail.

Magwedge makes a rail with a cutout to use stripper clips if you're looking for those to still be usable.
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I had both types of that rail and they both failed me. The one with cutout for the stripper clips had the worst performance.
 
Suther said:
How did they fail you?
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From what i observed is that there was to much flex/play at the rear leaf sight connection (front of the rail), and to much of a gap at the rear where it connects at the dust cover. The recoil would move the mount enough and and not return to the same spot after recoil thus the point of inpact would shift.

Also i think the thinness of the mount combined with the long gap inbetween the points of contact didnt help with ridgidty either.

If a guy was able to create a friction fit with the bottom of the mount and the top of the dust cover, and also be able to elminate the play at the rear leaf sight connection then the mount could possibly be alot more solid and reliable.

At first i thought it was my aimpoint and or the pic rail connector was loose, but it wasnt. It holds zero on my bolt actions that have pics rails.
 
asomer said:
From what i observed is that there was to much flex/play at the rear leaf sight connection (front of the rail), and to much of a gap at the rear where it connects at the dust cover. The recoil would move the mount enough and and not return to the same spot after recoil thus the point of inpact would shift.

Also i think the thinness of the mount combined with the long gap inbetween the points of contact didnt help with ridgidty either.

If a guy was able to create a friction fit with the bottom of the mount and the top of the dust cover, and also be able to elminate the play at the rear leaf sight connection then the mount could possibly be alot more solid and reliable.

At first i thought it was my aimpoint and or the pic rail connector was loose, but it wasnt. It holds zero on my bolt actions that have pics rails.
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Were you using the kwikpin, or the bolt to secure it at the rear? Mine feels pretty rock solid using the bolt on the rear of the mount once its tightened down, there is definitely some play with the kwikpin or if the bolt isn't tight though.
 
Suther said:
Were you using the kwikpin, or the bolt to secure it at the rear? Mine feels pretty rock solid using the bolt on the rear of the mount once its tightened down, there is definitely some play with the kwikpin or if the bolt isn't tight though.
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Yes i tried the kwikpin 1st then the bolt. The bolt seemed more secure but still didnt help.
 
odd, most guys I know that shoot a lot have had no issues with thier magwedge rail set ups failing
I was offered one but haven't decided if I want to bother putting an optic on an sks. A laser maybe LOL but my only complaint about the sks factory set up are the tiny stocks with poor cheek weld on low iron sights. The rear tech sights are cool.... might opt for that option one day
I can still see 100 yards pretty good over irons and I rarely bother shooting an sks much further than that
 
45ACPKING said:
odd, most guys I know that shoot a lot have had no issues with thier magwedge rail set ups failing
I was offered one but haven't decided if I want to bother putting an optic on an sks. A laser maybe LOL but my only complaint about the sks factory set up are the tiny stocks with poor cheek weld on low iron sights. The rear tech sights are cool.... might opt both styles figurin
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45ACPKING said:
odd, most guys I know that shoot a lot have had no issues with thier magwedge rail set ups failing
I was offered one but haven't decided if I want to bother putting an optic on an sks. A laser maybe LOL but my only complaint about the sks factory set up are the tiny stocks with poor cheek weld on low iron sights. The rear tech sights are cool.... might opt for that option one day
I can still see 100 yards pretty good over irons and I rarely bother shooting an sks much further than that
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I was rocking the mounts on my new old stock chicom type56 sks. Maybe the mounts were just to loose of a tollerance for my rifle at the rear sight and/or dust cover points, lending to too much inconsistent movement after recoil.

The smith i showed it to commented on the excessive movement at rear sight connection aswell, which helped in my decision to try and find a better solution.
 
asomer said:
I was rocking the mounts on my new old stock chicom type56 sks. Maybe the mounts were just to loose of a tollerance for my rifle at the rear sight and/or dust cover points, lending to too much inconsistent movement after recoil.

The smith i showed it to commented on the excessive movement at rear sight connection aswell, which helped in my decision to try and find a better solution.
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ya I get it man. Sometimes things just don't work the way we want them to when we start accessorizing. Especially on chinese rifles hehehe
 
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