JR Carbine thoughts?

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Hey all. Hope this is the right spot. Been looking for a 9mm carbine. Price range 800-1500. Read a lot on the JR Carbine; especially with regards to the feed issues and wanted to get the opinions of anyone who has one.

Feed issue problems?
Accuracy?
Likes/dislikes?
Other recommendations.

I appreciate anyone's time who answers so thanks in advance.
 
I had a 9mm one a couple of years ago. It was awesome.

Ran 100%. The factory backed it with needed issues 100% too.

I love the Glock mags. Into Gen 4 and a very reliable product they are.

If I were you, I'd try to arrange to have a Thureon Defence and a JR in your hands at the same time and decide which one you like best. I can see pros to both of them.

I'm not as crazy about the look of the Thureon (or the price) but I do like the push pin takedown vs the screws on the JR. (which I could not remove and I tried- but quickly gave up as I sure didn't want to strip the hex sockets)
 
I have a 9mm JR and it has been 100% reliable. Lots of fun and no issues. The take down issue is not that big of a deal to me, I don't need to detail clean it every range trip.
 
I'v had both the JR and the Thureon Defence. I now own just one and it's the TD. For the price range you are looking into spending, you would have no problem finding a used TD and still have enough to put an optic on it.
 
Had an earlier model one in .40s&w, it wasn't 100% off the bat but JR helped me get it to 100% with no cost to myself.
 
I am very interested in the JR as well, But the Aero seems a bit more interesting with 10mm option and soon 17 hrm option so hummmmmm makes me think some more about which one to get.
 
I owned a JR carbine a few years back and loved it, when I bought it from crappy tire it didn't come with a manual. Crappy tire wanted to charge me $7 plus taxes for a paper manual of the free pdf version online. I contacted JR Carbine in New York via email and told them that CT wanted to charge me for a manual, they then sent me a proper paper manual on thick card-stock paper in the mail at no charge.

The only reason I sold it is because the take-down issue for cleaning. I like to thoroughly clean after each use, and it became a pain to use the allen key to dis-assemble every time.
 
I have a 9mm JR and I love it. The only down side is that it's a big PITA to clean and I'm a bit obsessive about cleaning after each use. I don't scrub and scrub or try to get every last little speck but I never put a gun away without cleaning it if I shot it and the JR is a pain to clean.

I'm going to keep it, for sure, mainly because it's NR. But for regular shooting I'm going to try and find a DI 9mm upper to use instead (not an easy thing to find unless you get it custom made in the USA and then get one of the places like IRG or PR to bring it over for you).

If the ARs weren't restricted, I'd say absolutely go with a 9mm upper instead, but, for a NR 9mm carbine, the JR shoots better than anything else I've tried that costs under $2000 and I've tried a lot of them

If only it was easier to clean....
 
its a piece of sh!t
any firearm that doesnt work 100% when you open it brand new out of the box is sh!t, i say that no matter what the price, brand or angel dust the firearm is.

yes I owned one. yes it was the 9mm version. No it didnt facking work!
 
cantom said:
I had a 9mm one a couple of years ago. It was awesome.

Ran 100%. The factory backed it with needed issues 100% too.

I love the Glock mags. Into Gen 4 and a very reliable product they are.

If I were you, I'd try to arrange to have a Thureon Defence and a JR in your hands at the same time and decide which one you like best. I can see pros to both of them.

I'm not as crazy about the look of the Thureon (or the price) but I do like the push pin takedown vs the screws on the JR. (which I could not remove and I tried- but quickly gave up as I sure didn't want to strip the hex sockets)
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My ownership mirrors Cantom's as do my thoughts on recommending a JR rifle to you Srnson.

Cheers D
 
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Thank you for all the responses. Nice to know the JR is good just a PITA to takedown and clean. I'll take a look at the other suggestions and see what I like.

Cheers!
 
srnson said:
Thank you for all the responses. Nice to know the JR is good just a PITA to takedown and clean. I'll take a look at the other suggestions and see what I like.

Cheers!
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They've addressed the takedown issue and also increased the quad rail length so it doesn't look so retarded with the 18.5" barrel.

 
I have a first gen one in 9mm. Love it. no issues. They are heavy for a carbine. If it's Non restricted you want. The storm is a great rifle. I have Rest one no complaints. I don't own a Beretta pistol but do have a Glock
 
This video gave me hope...until I saw that they had not installed takedown pins between the upper and lower.(like TD)

With takedown pins I'd like the JR a lot better. As I said, when I had one I tried undoing the 3 allen key socket screws without success. I don't know if someone Loctited them, seemed like it.


JJGunner said:
They've addressed the takedown issue and also increased the quad rail length so it doesn't look so retarded with the 18.5" barrel.

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I have the takedown model in 9mm, it's a newer generation one.

I have found it to be utterly reliable. I've had a single failure to feed with it in maybe ~500 rounds (and I shoot cheap reloaded 9mm). The build quality is excellent, and accuracy is quite good (I haven't bothered measuring, but it is extremely consistent, at 50 yards 1 inch groups are very doable). I do have some issues with it that are design related:

1) The mag release is absolutely terribly placed for a right handed user, first time I took it out I immediately dropped my mag by mistake. You have to grab it further down the handguard.
2) The spring is very stiff. By far the stiffest of any rifle I have so racking it can be challenging, especially as it gets dirty.
3) The requirement of 3 different Allen keys for takedown sucks. The saving grace is that (in my opinion) you very rarely need to do a full takedown, so the only one you need to unscrew is for the bolt handle, the bolt then comes out the rear. Oh, and you need an AR wrench too (the newest ones do away with that requirement, but I don't find it a big deal).
4) No bolt hold open on last round. Oh well.

So overall it's not perfect, but for the money (can be had for < $1000 new) it has build quality which rivals the XCR, RPR, or other much more expensive rifles. And 9mm is quite affordable compared to other centerfire rounds. I have no plans to sell mine, it's a keeper.
 
I had a 9mm. I really like it but couldnt get passed how hard it was to clean, so i sold it. Few years later I had a new need for a pistol carbine so bought another. Feelings havent changed about it, its a good little rifle but man its anoying to clean.
 
RideauBound said:
I have the takedown model in 9mm, it's a newer generation one.

I have found it to be utterly reliable. I've had a single failure to feed with it in maybe ~500 rounds (and I shoot cheap reloaded 9mm). The build quality is excellent, and accuracy is quite good (I haven't bothered measuring, but it is extremely consistent, at 50 yards 1 inch groups are very doable). I do have some issues with it that are design related:

1) The mag release is absolutely terribly placed for a right handed user, first time I took it out I immediately dropped my mag by mistake. You have to grab it further down the handguard.
Yes, but only when compared directly to the ergo's of an AR. Other platforms have done just fine without that style release (AK, Galil, VZ58, M14 family, Tavor, SA80, Steyr AUG, FN-FAL, and to some extent the MP5)

2) The spring is very stiff. By far the stiffest of any rifle I have so racking it can be challenging, especially as it gets dirty.
Agreed, but breaks in quickly

3) The requirement of 3 different Allen keys for takedown sucks. The saving grace is that (in my opinion) you very rarely need to do a full takedown, so the only one you need to unscrew is for the bolt handle, the bolt then comes out the rear. Oh, and you need an AR wrench too (the newest ones do away with that requirement, but I don't find it a big deal).
THIS X1000 !...some people just can't it through their heads that while YES it could have been done better...you don't have to do a complete strip after each use. I tear mine down maybe twice a year. A good cleaning can be done just removing the stock/buffer/bolt.

4) No bolt hold open on last round. Oh well.
Yep, it would be nice but it not that big a deal either...again, look at the MP5 9mm, probably the most prolific 9mm sub-gun ever.

So overall it's not perfect, but for the money (can be had for < $1000 new) it has build quality which rivals the XCR, RPR, or other much more expensive rifles. And 9mm is quite affordable compared to other centerfire rounds. I have no plans to sell mine, it's a keeper.
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Very fair review, just added a couple of my opinions to yours..
 
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