JR Carbine

[fleabaggins]

Not sure if this is the correct forum, but.....was just looking at the JR Carbines for sale on Elwood Epps sight. They all say they come with a fixed M4 buttstock. I take it that means it is the collapsing buttstock, fixed in the open position?? Is this due to the overall length? If not, can it be made to close, or replaced with a stock that does collapse??
Thanks all.

 

[mrsmitty]

Its made to satisfy US DOS export regulations. Has nothing to do with Canadian law.

 

[Farmer Harv]

Not sure if this is the correct forum,

Yes

but.....was just looking at the JR Carbines for sale on Elwood Epps sight. They all say they come with a fixed M4 buttstock. I take it that means it is the collapsing buttstock, fixed in the open position??

Yes

Is this due to the overall length?

No

If not, can it be made to close,

Yes

or replaced with a stock that does collapse??

Yes

Thanks all.

You're welcome.

 

[pacific]

I've been under a rock for a long time (overseas actually) so this is the first I've ever heard of the JR carbine. It's spiked my interest and it looks like a lot of fun though, so I assume it's restricted?

 

[ndb86]

I've been under a rock for a long time (overseas actually) so this is the first I've ever heard of the JR carbine. It's spiked my interest and it looks like a lot of fun though, so I assume it's restricted?

Nope the ones epps brought in are 19 inch bbls and non restricted!

 

[pacific]

Nope the ones epps brought in are 19 inch bbls and non restricted!

Oh dear! It's non-restricted and there are mag-well adapters for it so that it will accept my 10 round Sig P229 mags. Just when you think you can live more simply and stay out of debt, somebody goes and makes your ideal gun...

 

[Dexter Morgan]

Non-restricted.

And you can remove the pin in the stock with a drill, so it will collapse normally. Completely legal and still non-restricted under Canadian law.

Also completely legal to use 10 round pistol magazines in it.

 

[Farmer Harv]

Non-restricted.

And you can remove the pin in the stock with a drill, so it will collapse normally. Completely legal and still non-restricted under Canadian law.

Also completely legal to use 10 round pistol magazines in it.

And if you want to, thirteen rounds are legally possible. I tried a Glock 23 mag in mine, but out of 5 attempts I only got all 13 to go smoothly one time without a failure to feed at some point. Apparently some tweaking of the feed lips helps with feeding 9mm, but I don't want to muck up an otherwise good magazine and will stick with 10 for now.

 

[TERMINATOR101CA]

And if you want to, thirteen rounds are legally possible. .

I wouldn't be too sure about that one...

 

[Farmer Harv]

I wouldn't be too sure about that one...

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Item #5:

5. Magazines for semiautomatic handguns which contain more than ten (10) rounds of a different calibre

Magazines designed to contain centrefire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun, are limited to 10 cartridges. The capacity is measured by the kind of cartridge the magazine was designed to contain. In some cases the magazine will be capable of containing more than 10 rounds of a different caliber; however that is not relevant in the determination of the maximum permitted capacity.

Example:
Heckler and Koch P7 pistol chambered for 9mm Luger caliber:
The magazine designed for the 40 S&W calibre variant of the pistol will hold 13 cartridges of 9mm Luger calibre and function in the 9mm Luger calibre P7 pistol. This is permissible as the maximum permitted capacity of the 40 S&W calibre magazine must be measured by the number of 40 S&W calibre cartridges it is capable of holding, which is 10 such cartridges in the case of the HK P7 pistol magazine.

 

[acrashb]

Apparently some tweaking of the feed lips helps with feeding 9mm,

I wouldn't do that. You may well be construed as having manufactured a 9mm mag, which now holds 13, which would be prohibited.

Glock 40 mags don't hold 9mm at all well; pity, but there you go.

 

[polaris]

who sells these carbines?

someone mentioned Epps, but can't find it on their site, any succestions?

 

[fnrob]

The Gun Dealer, in McAdam NB, has them listed on their website as well. Don't know if they still have any stock, though.

 

[meatsticks]

Someone moving one on the EE for 800 with sights... Good deal!

 

[chrisco]

Al Simmons in Hamilton is carrying these. They have the fully collapsable buttstock on them.
$899 when I was in there a week ago.

MY 0.02¢

 

[Klemmy31]

Wood Joynt

Bill at the Wood Joynt would be glad to help you out with purchasing one of these, saw one there the other day, pretty cool gun.

 

[Harrier .45]

All of the JR Carbines have adjustable stocks, however the US State Department will not allow the export of collapsible, folding, or adjustable stocks on rifles only, therefore the stocks are pinned in place for export. The pin can be removed quite easily, thereby allowing for a multi-position M4-style collapsible stock on these guns.

Epps is currently sold out of the JR Carbine, but we are anticipating deliveries of new models sometime between mid-April and early May. Please keep a watchful eye on our website. Once these guns do arrive, they will be listed there along with full descriptions and prices for each model.

Currently, the JR Carbine is priced at $899.00 for the 9mm Luger model. This is the only calibre presently available for import into Canada.

 

[redddogg69]

Al Simmons in Hamilton is carrying these. They have the fully collapsable buttstock on them.
$899 when I was in there a week ago.

MY 0.02¢

Sold out. I bought the last one

 

[camaross]

Do they make a mag well for M&P mags? I already own 4 of these.