July the Twentieth

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My clock has just turned over and a new day (or so they say; I will believe it when the Sun rises) has begun.

Thinking on this day, the Twentieth day of July........

On the Twentieth of July in the year 1969 I was sitting in fellow History student Neil Douglas's living-room. There were no classes that day and our minds were attempting to comprehend some of the vast mass of conceptual information we had been afforded in the previous term in Dr. Lightbody's lectures. Forty minutes with Doc would give anyone with a working brain many hours, even days, of discussion, so tightly were the concepts packed. And we had withstood three of his lectures each week for seven months. We had a LOT to consider.

But the DATE was important, so we were considering one of the great "what-ifs" of History, an event which had happened just 25 years before, on that date. We were thinking mostly about Claus Schenk, the Graf von Stauffenbrg, a shattered war hero with a single eye and a single hand remaining, arriving at the Wolfsschanze at Rastenberg in East Prussia, where the Fuhrer Begleit Kommando, the cream of the cream of the Waffen-SS, guarded their steadily-less-stable Master, Adolf Hitler, the elected Prime Minister and President of Germany. Using just his medals and bravery, von Stauffenberg refused to allow the FBK to look in his briefcase, although, like every other sworn German Officer, he was relieved of his pistol..... and then was permitted to enter the meeting-room. The staff meeting this day, though, was to take place in a wooden room above ground rather than in the heavily-armoured bunker.

The Graf made his greetings to the staff meeting, put his briefcase under the table, flipped it open with his one good hand, and started the timer.

Neil got us another coffee (we were both addicts by that time; you needed the "high" just to keep up with Doc's mind, even though his body was failing quickly).

There was something on the television, so he turned up the volume, we let poor von Stauffenberg have his peace for a few minutes..... and we watched a Great Man (who was descended from a thousand years of cattle-thieves on the Scots Borders)........ as he climbed slowly down the ladder.....................

................................ and stood upon the surface of the Moon.

Important day in History, this.
 
My question about the man on the ladder is what did he pinch while he was up there? Then again, I'm a little cynical, being descended from a thousand years of cattle thieves on the Scots border myself.
 
@ ENEFGEE: As far as I know, he didn't pinch a thing. Well, maybe a few rocks. Theyir wasna' a blessit bit o' ayir oop there, ye know, se theyre couldna' be any cattle to steal. So he took a few pictures an' cam home agin.

I do know that he wrote a note to my Dad after he got back, saying that it was "as far as he could get from Carlanrigg". An' the baith o' us know aw' too weel what happenet theyir in 1530. Damn James the Fifth!

Hmmm.... I will have to dig that note out. It's in with my Dad's papers somewhere. He treasured that, partly because he was regarded as insane when he was in school: he thought that, some day, men might fly to the moon. And then, forty years later, a man walked on the Moon...... a man with the same NAME, a name which was only given once..... and so related.
 
And I was five weeks old on that day in 1969. (Do you feel a little older now Smellie?) I was born only 25 years and a week after the D Day landings . My Mum is from England and my Grandad was a Lancaster engine mechanic. My Dad was born and grew up in occupied Holland. Now at 44 I can clearly remember the summer I had prior to joining the army later that fall. Now when I say to myself Jesus Christ it's now going on 70 years since the invasion I'm comforted in knowing I came to be not too long after those events took place.
 
Yes, it was a very interesting day when young Armstrong descended the ladder. The world watched the grainy black and white images as the the first man ever to do so, stepped off the lunar lander and triumphantly claimed his place in history for striding across the Nevada desert in a goofy white puffy flightsuit. An american flag lazily wind-flapped in the background during the victory lap.

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I remember that day very well. I was a carefree young Lt attending a radiation hazard control course at Camp Borden and was down in Toronto visiting my GF. We watched the moon walk on a her small B&W TV.

There was a lot of speculation at this time about where the Trudeau defence cuts were going to happen. A sidekick on this course was an Lt in the Black Watch who kept re-assuring himself that his regiment would not be affected because it was too powerful politically. Not powerful enough though, as we soon learned that the Watch, along with the Queens Own Rifles, The Canadian Guards, and the Fort Garry Horse were going to get the chop.
 
I was busy at the time in a socalled civil war, didn't even know it happened until the middle of November,69. I thought it was a great step for the world at the time. To bad they stopped there.

Still, it gives us as much hope now as it did then.

The US and the USSR, built whole industries around the space programs they had.

The US, no longer can afford such lavish expenditures but still sees the value, along with the rest of the most progressive nations. Now, they are actually working together on tackling outer space.

Maybe there is some real progress being made???? So darn slow though.

Fifty years ago, I was sure I would be able to vacation on the moon.
 
Yeah, they built it up and did it..... and then the politicians dumped it and played the whole thing away for p*ssing rights in a card-game in which the Pot was full of IOUs, all adding up to MAB: Mutually Assured Bankruptcy.

We COULD have had that vacation on the Moon, Bearhunter, but all the money was needed for buying votes.

Am I bitter? Damned right. The fantasies of a thousand years were within our grasp, the entire Solar System was up for grabs. It cost a Nickel a day.... but that was too much.

Which civil war were you stuck in, Bearhunter? Biafra? Los Angeles? Angola? Rhodesia? Or one of the others?

There were just so MANY.
 
I was a wee lad all of 5 years old, and I watched in amazement and wonder in that historic moment. I imagined a future full of space exploration and travel to the planets. I am very disappointed that 44 years after that historic event, and the following Apollo missions, that man has not gone back to the Moon, or gone to Mars yet.
 
@ ENEFGEE: As far as I know, he didn't pinch a thing. Well, maybe a few rocks. Theyir wasna' a blessit bit o' ayir oop there, ye know, se theyre couldna' be any cattle to steal. So he took a few pictures an' cam home agin.

I do know that he wrote a note to my Dad after he got back, saying that it was "as far as he could get from Carlanrigg". An' the baith o' us know aw' too weel what happenet theyir in 1530. Damn James the Fifth!

Hmmm.... I will have to dig that note out. It's in with my Dad's papers somewhere. He treasured that, partly because he was regarded as insane when he was in school: he thought that, some day, men might fly to the moon. And then, forty years later, a man walked on the Moon...... a man with the same NAME, a name which was only given once..... and so related.

Spoken like a true sassenach!
 
I remember that day very well. I was a carefree young Lt attending a radiation hazard control course at Camp Borden and was down in Toronto visiting my GF. We watched the moon walk on a her small B&W TV.

There was a lot of speculation at this time about where the Trudeau defence cuts were going to happen. A sidekick on this course was an Lt in the Black Watch who kept re-assuring himself that his regiment would not be affected because it was too powerful politically. Not powerful enough though, as we soon learned that the Watch, along with the Queens Own Rifles, The Canadian Guards, and the Fort Garry Horse were going to get the chop.

Joint Atomic Biological Chemical Warfare School? Brian Bettridge one of the instructors?
 
Biafra? Ireland? im always interested to hear old vet stories if your willing to share


Angola.

No different from any other war, just no venues for resupply other than what you could scrounge or pick up. Rank, came by merit and experience. Luck had a lot to do with it as well.

Best learning experience of my life. I had resigned myself to not getting out.

Everyday since then, has been a blessing and a valuable gift. Even the bad days are good.

Learned a lot about large, organized religious groups. Now, I believe what I believe. That was a civil war fought with WWII cast offs from all over the world. Africa was and still is a dumping ground for all of that old ordnance. Even saw some Canadian FNs there. The Cubans brought them in with them. Gifts from Trudeau to Castro I guess.

You're right on the money smellie. Like everything else they get involved in, the politicians and selected bureaucrats p-ssed it all away, along with the dreams and futures of most of the people on earth.

They all need to be held legally accountable.

How do you get the fox in the henhouse to admit it's stealing the chickens???

Yeah, I'm bitter as well.
 
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Joint Atomic Biological Chemical Warfare School? Brian Bettridge one of the instructors?

Yes, that was the place. 44 yrs has obscured the names, but I do remember a few things about the place incl living in the sweltering old H huts in the heat of the summer, exceeding our maximum permissible dose of radiation because of excessive exposure to radioactive sources ( some of the staff got into deep kaka because of this) and playing super janitor on radiation monitoring and decontamination exercises at Borden and up at Chalk River. It was no fun spending hours out in the sun wearing a plastic suit, rubber boots, rubber gloves and a respirator (no drinking provisions on these ones) all taped up good and tight. You could pour the sweat out of your boots after a spell of this.
 
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