Jungle carbine question

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I am looking at purchasing a 1944 Jungle Carbine. The poor pictures I was sent......show the absence of the typical rubber butt pad. Were "any" jungle carbines ever issued with a standard No4 butt-stock and brass or zinc butt plate? I think I know the answer to my question but I will let the experts chime in.
If I need a correct butt-stock to return to "as issued" are they tough to find? If butt-stock needs replacing and everything else is correct and matching what would a fair price of purchase be for the rifle?
Thanks for your input.
 
One of the distinguishing features of the No.5 is the redesigned buttstock. The seller or a previous owner probably took it off in anguished pain. The recoil is concentrated by the smaller surface of the hockey puck pad, and is less comfortable to shoot.

You'll have more trouble finding a loose No.5 butt and buttplate compared to a No.4, only because they were a much shorted production run. That said, hope springs eternal. I think Numrich (aka Gun Parts Company) was selling reproductions a few years ago.

Price? A good, complete No.4 will cost you $700-$900 these days. They're not worth that much, but that is the market price. A No.5 will be in that price range too because there are fewer selling. Fortunately they have a strange reputation for "wandering zeros" so collectors walk past them.

BTW, if your No.5 has a high comb blond buttstock, and holes in the left sidewall for a Griffin and Howe detachable scope base, one was stolen from me about 30 yrs ago.
 
I personally wouldn't go near such a rifle. 1944 dated No5 rifles are almost non existent IMHO. Consider, they only decided to start building them in March 1944 and proceeded at a very slow pace until October of that year. Likely one of the rarer dates to be found on a suggested total of 250,000 rifles built. That butt most certainly isn't correct and without good pics of the receiver lightening cuts, barrel cut outs I would have to admit to being skeptical. Way to many fakes out there.

Now I am thinking you're talking about No 5 MkI riles??? Is there a possibility you have pics of one of the Austrailian Mk6 carbines??? Very few of those made and I don't believe any were made in 1944 and they were made on modified No1 actions. About 20 years ago or more there were a bunch of clones that weren't very good copies offered for sale by some dealers out of the US. They looked similar to what you describe.
 
Get good pics of the receiver. There are some fairly distinct differences (lightening cuts) in the receiver that are hard to fake.
 
Well I looked at the rifle.....what a hodge podge that was!!!! It was actually a 1944 No4 Mk1 with a full length barrel, somebody had removed the bayonet lugs and installed a Jungle Carbine flash hider on the end. The fore-stock had been shortened but left longer than the forward hand guard which also had been shortened.....it was made to look just like a Jungle Carbine. Never seen anything like it before.....a poor mans jungle carbine I guess. Need less to say I walked away from that one.
Thanks for all who got back to me!!
 
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