Jungle Carbine US Property? Help me Identify this little beauty

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Good Day fellow Gunnutz

I recently picked up a Enfield Jungle Carbine which is baffling me and google has been no help at all

This rifle has been parkerized and has the following markings

left side of the receiver:

US Property stamp
C.A.I Georga VT (Century Arms International a US importer)
Cal. 303USA (can I shoot 303 British through this rifle?)
Pineapple Bomb mark (Artillery model?)
A large 5 No4 MK1*

The left hand metal stock wrist has 59C2053 with a B under it (BSA manufacture?)

The Bolt

Does not have a hollowed out bolt handle
M stamped in the top side of the bolt shaft
B stamped on the top of the bolt face
O stamped in the extractor

Right hand side of the receiver has no stamps or markings

It has a small flip up aperture sight on the rear of the receiver 300 and 600 markings
S stamped on the right side of the aperture sight

The butt is a brass plated stock with the sling mounts(stamped with an S) not a typical jungle carbine stock

55 with an arrow then an S stamped on the top of the brass buttplate
F 55 stamped under the brass cover for the cleaning rods

No stamps on the barrel at all, I have not stripped off the wood yet

No stamps on the bayonet lug, front ring sights or the flash hider

I believe it is a 2 groove barrel but a thorough cleaning will tell the whole truth

No stamps on the mag

the bore is dark but no pitting.

I want to know what this thing is, any help would be appreciated

I can send along some pictures if required to an Email address.

Thanks very much!

Phil
 
Hope you didn’t pay a premium.

Total fabrication to make a “Jungle Carbine” probably from an old No.4 MK.1* sporter that was beyond repair back to original number 4 configuration.

- The flaming bomb mark is a US firing proof mark commonly found on US Savage made Enfields
- no rifle was ever designated 5 No.4 Mk.1*
- Brass butts were found on No.4, but as far as I know never on No.5
- No.5 had the 200-800 micrometer sights not the two position flip “L” style battle aperture
- Serial is savage as indicated by the C in the 3rd position which stood for Chicopee Falls, only Fazakerly made the No.5
- ALL No.5 had hollowed out bolt handles, it was a measure to make them lighter for paratroop use
 
I refuse to purchase a "Jungle Carbine" sight unseen, for this very reason - there are more fakes or "reproductions" (as it loosely were) than there are genuine articles. One of the easiest ways to tell if it is a genuine article is removing the hand guard and seeing if the knox form has had lightening cuts made. No cuts, she be suspect... Barrel outside diameter is also a sign - being that the No.4 conversions have a larger OD they need the fake-ish flash hider/sight assembly which is 0.670" ID.
 
All excellent info. Near as I can tell she should be a nice little compact hunting rifle. I paid next to nothing for it so put your minds at ease there.

I’ve always wanted a Carbine length enfield and this seems to have scratched my itch.

Thanks for all the help folks!
 
7ECA said:
I refuse to purchase a "Jungle Carbine" sight unseen, for this very reason - there are more fakes or "reproductions" (as it loosely were) than there are genuine articles. One of the easiest ways to tell if it is a genuine article is removing the hand guard and seeing if the knox form has had lightening cuts made. No cuts, she be suspect... Barrel outside diameter is also a sign - being that the No.4 conversions have a larger OD they need the fake-ish flash hider/sight assembly which is 0.670" ID.
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Even easier is to look at the action to see if it has the lightening cut on the left side of the receiver, between the rear sight and the charger bridge. On a No.4 the whole length of this side of the action is a straight vertical. It's not easy to fake this either on the action or on the knox form, if anyone has done a convincing job of it on a No.4 it is probably so rare it may be collectible as a fake.
 
It is one made by GOLDEN STATE ARMS in the mid 1960's
They were sold as British Commando rifles and Jungle Carbines.
The flash hider is cast pot metal held on my one set screw and has been known to come lose and disappear in a hurry.
There are two distinct models of the Commando/Jungle carbine as sold by GSA
One had the middle band moved back to hold on the handguard and the other had a stamped metal nose cap on the rear handguard so that the wood did not have to be cut for the band to hold the
handguard on.
 
this one has two pins holding the flash hider in place rather then any set screws I can find.

I have not handled a proper jungle carbine in years but the flash hider seems to be secure. the previous owner reported no issues or fixes hes had to do.

Is there a way I could Identify if this is a replica flash hider?
 
Steppenwolf said:
I have one something like yours.View attachment 289938
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