Just bought CZ SP-01 Shadow: Suggestions on Canadian shooting?

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The shipment of SP-01's arrived at my neighborhood gun store here in Edmonton today and I'm a proud owner of a packing greased Shadow...gonna play IPSC.

I've only shot in North Carolina. Warmer and much more humid than Alberta.

I'm sure there's going to be some personal "discoveries" competing in this climate. I'd like to keep them from being "surprises".

Any suggestions for dry-air cold weather shooting? Hand loading issues? Preferred lube? Grips and grip tape? Brand of hand warmers to stick into the magwell between stages? How to keep plastic cushions of ear muffs from getting hard?

Thank you,

DavesNotHere
 
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The shipment of SP-01's arrived at my neighborhood gun store here in Edmonton today and I'm a proud owner of a packing greased Shadow...gonna play IPSC.

I've only shot in North Carolina. Warmer and much more humid than Alberta.

I'm sure there's going to be some personal "discoveries" competing in this climate. I'd like to keep them from being "surprises".

Any suggestions for dry-air cold weather shooting? Hand loading issues? Preferred lube? Grips and grip tape? Brand of hand warmers to stick into the magwell between stages? How to keep plastic cushions of ear muffs from getting hard?

Thank you,

DavesNotHere
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Somewhere out there is a list of legal modifications you can do to the SP01 for IPSC (assuming Prod Div?) Mostly spring changes & hammer variations.
Mine had thin aluminum grips that I replaced with factory rubber grips. I found the thin grips toooo thin.
Grip tape is covered in the IPSC rule book (with diagrams)
I load my rounds short - 1.100" Depends on the bullet you use.
Lube is personal choice. I like BreakFree CLP. Some people use Frog Lube/Juice/Guts...whatever...very $$$.
I don't think the gun will behave differently between the 2 climates. I'm shooting in a hot dry dusty area where I need to disassemble & clean mags after every match.
Have fun.
 
I shoot a Shadow as well. I am proud to admit I've abused the hell out of my shadow and have never had 1 problem with it that wasn't operator induced (read that as I'm a moron).

I have tens of thousand of rounds through mine and never broken anything on it but the fiber optic. I clean it between 1000-2000 rounds, rarely remember to oil it and I've literally pounded in it with a hammer to adjust the sights... Still functions perfectly.

I would recommend picking up an extra slide stop. Lots of people have broke theirs. I haven't... yet. I have a spare slide stop as well as a whole extra shadow in case my main one breaks at a match.

Also pick up a lighter hammer spring, it greatly reduces the double action trigger pull. It's definitely worth it.
 
I was shooting glocks and a ruger revolver mostly and going to another brand of gun I am sure I have some bad gun cleaning hygiene. Nice to know that someone does 1000-2000 rounds before cleaning. I was worried about the dust here.

Springs are definitely on the list. That is something that I shoot for a while then make a change. Being used to one recoil impulse could screw you up on a potentially better spring setup.

1.1" OAL is pretty short. Nice to know that stuff like nosedives because of short bullets are not an issue.

Thanks everyone!

DNH
 
I use a Shadow in Production Division.

Get a good trigger job done to reduce the DA pull to 5.5 pounds.

It is an very easy gun to shoot.

Load wise, I use 124 gr RNHB Berry's, 4.1 gr titegroup and CCI primers.

OAL seems to be all over the place with this gun. I use 1.140 with no issue, but I also know that better shooters than myself load between 1.109 and 1.115 with 3.9-4.0 gr of titegroup.
 
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I use a Shadow in Production Division.

Get a good trigger job done to reduce the DA pull to 5.5 pounds.

It is an very easy gun to shoot.

Load wise, I use 124 gr RNHB Berry's, 4.1 gr titegroup and CCI primers.

OAL seems to be all over the place with this gun. I use 1.140 with no issue, but I also know that better shooters than myself load between 1.109 and 1.115 with 3.9-4.0 gr of titegroup.
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Have to agree still trying to figure it out.. anyone with more comments..?
 
DA at 5.5 pounds lighting off CCI's! That's awesome! I had to run stock springs in my Ruger GP100 revolver to get them to go bang consistently.

4.1 gr of TG behind any 124gr pill (that is on sale) is my standard 9mm load. Just snappy enough to keep things quick. Also enough margin to make power factor. 3.9-4.0 gr and I start worrying at chrono time...

I've played with OAL with my glocks and too long gets hung up in the mag and too short gets nosedives. Nice to hear that Shadows will take variation. The gun is so much like a 1911/2011 platform that I start expecting finicky ammo dietary needs.

Thanks,

DNH
 
Slide stops and replacement fiber optics... Fairly common breakage points on these.

(cue someone saying they have 20 000 rounds on their slide stop...)
 
Slide stop is now on the shopping list.

I'm an engineer and I've found it's impossible to design something unbreakable but it is possible to design where it will break or wear out.

Thanks,

DNH
 
There was quite a discussion on the CZ Forum about OAL for SP01's & Shadows. Some claimed that the gun has a shorter chamber than other makes. Others has problems with the mags not dropping freely because the slide was dragging on the top round. I believe the consensus was to load shorter
 
Trigger spring will go if you dry fire like a pro. RHS and LHS safety dedents if you're needing to take the whole thing apart. These little pieces leave the gun at about 3-400 FPS
and vaporize due to the high acceleration. Check the floor vents and your wife's hair.
 
Good comment about dry-fire! I'll add a trigger spring and a pin to the shopping list. If you want to shoot fast the trigger has to return fast too.
I read a thread that someone uses an o-ring to prevent damage. It doesn't seem like it's necessary and has probably caused more problems.

There is a thread about a guy selling extra strength safety detent springs. I'll buy the package of five for the ones that vaporize. http://www.dsperman.com/products/CZSpring/CZSpring.html

DavesNotHere
 
If you are stocking up on spare parts you might as well get a spare extractor (or 2). Sooner or later it will break and you might as well have one on hand. I found with my Shadow that it took about 300 rounds to break-in before it would feed reliably (I think extractor smoothing out) then flawless the next 4000-5000 then it would get finicky again for the last 200-300 rounds before the extractor finally broke.
 
Congratulations and welcome to the CZ addiction. For parts, a slide stop, recoil spring, firing pin+spring, extractor+spring a reduced power mainspring. For lube, I prefer synthetic grease for the slide and synthetic oil for the rest of the moving parts. I will stay away from Froglube specifically during colder months. It will dry up like silicone caulk/gum.
 
Extractor, I think that will be something I inspect pretty closely. I've got my 2000 grit ready.

I'm a fan of gun butter and CLP. I realize break-free is mil-spec so that shouldn't gum up the works.

The parts that are "breaking" for people just seem like they're wearing out. If there was a design problem there'd be a lot more aftermarket parts.

Current Spare Parts List:

slide stop
extractor + spring (extra strength?)
firing pin + spring
main springs (various weights)
recoil springs (various weights)
trigger spring
CZ-75 Pre B Disconnector (IPSC production legal) http://czcustom.com/CZUBPREBDROPINDISCONNECTOR.aspx

I've got plenty of fiber - http://www.fiberopticproducts.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=8_22&products_id=874

Any suggestions for IPSC Production legal basepads?

DNH
 
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