Just got PAL and want to buy a .22, need some opinions please!

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Hey all,

Well I got my PAL today and am now looking into getting a .22 I have never shot a gun or even gone hunting so I know nothing except what I learned in the saftey courses.

I was just wondering which .22 would be good for me. I am looking to get a semi-atuo that will hold as many bullets as it is legal. I have no specific manufacture that I want except a friend suggested Remington.

I will be using the gun for target practice first and then I will be going up north with my friend to get some Partirdges (sp?)

Eventually I will be getting a shotgun and a nice rifle so hopefully a .22 can help me a bit before going to other guns.

Thanks for your help!
 
first gun

Step 1 - Go to LeBaron to get a deal on a rifle because you are in the GTA. Step 2 - pick out the best Ruger 10-22 that fits your style: synthetic stock or hardwood or walnut, or blued vs stainless or carbine vs rifle length. Step 3 - ensure to buy a plentitude of ammunition to try it out. Step 4 - have lots of fun and never look back on buying something else that you would have regretted later. Just my opinion of course.
 
if you are looking for a 22 you can add lots of stuff, a 10-22 is the way to go. i own a marlin 7000 and have no regrets, but for your first gun a heavy barrel 22 may be annoying. take a good look at the marlin 795. its cheaper than the 10-22 and has different features. once you pick a gun buy a box of each type of ammo available and figure out which you like the best. once you have an idea of the ammo you like mortgage something and spend it on bullets cause 22s are addictive and can be hungry for rounds. enjoy your new 22.
 
To add to 3screwloose

I don't really agree with the LeBaron thing. Some of the mail orders from outside the province, have a lower price and no PST (there is GST and shipping). mind you Lebaron is having no tax days (Dec 2 and 3rd). An example is a Savage 10ML muzzle loader SIRMailorder has them for 534.99 (Plus GST and shipping $12.95), LeBaron has it for 575 plus both taxes, no shipping because one can pick it up.

Ruger 10/22 great little gun, not many can refute that it is one of the best plinking guns around.

get at least a 500 pack of ammo. With a 22, it can be gone in a hour. Or to play it safe, get a pack of each 22 LR that LeBaron (or ammo retailer) has in stock. Some guns are picky about what ammo it likes to feed, you don't want to get stuck with a case of ammo that doesn't feed properly--It's not too bad with the 22's, but larger caliber ammo gets expensive, especially if your buying lots of 1000+

Have fun, and get as many friends as you can involved.

PS. another thing. Go to the local gun store and "dry fit" before you buy. If it feels uncomfortable and heavy in the store, it will feel worse in the bush.
 
I'll second the Ruger 1022, but recommend the rifle lenght vs. the carbine lenght. The 1022 rifle doesn't have the front barrel band issue that the carbine does.

Are you western end of the GTA? PM me if you want to try some rifles out live.
 
another vote on Ruger 10/22. I had my carbine three weeks ago and put through about 1500 rounds. Untill now no missfire or any problem. Go fo it.
 
Marlin 7000

Disadvantage - 10 shot clips. Advantage - extremely accurate, and less jamming than the 10/22. Sidney I Robinson in Winnipeg has them for about $230-250. And you might find a better deal if you look around. I own a 7000T and absolutely love it. 60 rounds in the bulleye at 25 meters with scope.

If you want to wait a little try the Rhineland R22 $600 and 3 month or so wait. Uses 25 shot mag's (same as 10/22).
 
Hey all,

Thanks for all the great replies, I am in a bit of a rush so I have to make this short. A Ruger 10/22 sounds like a good choice then but I do have a question. Is Rugar the company of the gun or something because when I google Rugar 10/22 I don't get a company website I just gets lots fan sites of that gun. I will look more into it and will be back in a few hours asking more questions.

1 more thing, About how far will they shoot?

Thanks
 
Try this, www.ruger.com . I have to say though that a semi-automatic is NOT a good choice for a newby shooter. Every time you fire the gun automatically ejects the spent case and loads a live round. Very easy for an inexperienced shooter to have an accident. A bolt action is a much better choice to start out with. Ruger makes one, the 77/22 I believe. Marlin and Savage also have a few to choose from.
 
I agree with the last post that a semi auto is a downright dangerous weapon for a beginner to start with.
I recommend getting a Norinco JW15 bolt action from www.marstar.ca
It only costs $150 and you will have a lot of fun with a less dangerous 22. Marstar will post it to you.
Once you have got used to your safe operation methods being 2nd nature to you and have had some experience you can progress to a Ruger 10/22.
That Norinco JW15 is a whole lot more accurate than the 10/22 and you wont have to pour a fortune into it to try and improve it.
As far as shooting Partridge (grouse) you will only be able to shoot them if they hold still on the ground. Most Grouse explode upward from beside you and have to be shot on the wing with a shotgun. Trying to shoot Grouse on the wing with a 22LR is hopeless and very dangerous as you don't know where that shot is going to go . It can travel a good mile or more. Remember to choose your shot with a reasonable backstop as you don't know who else is in the woods.
I'm surprised that none of the previous posts didn't mention the hunting Partridge aspect. Maybe they don't hunt Partridge.
Good luck
Jim
 
A 10/22 is a dangerous gun for beginners?????? Are you guys feeling alright?


10/22 is possibly the best gun for beginners. Its fun, accurate, cheap, cheap to feed, easily upgraded.

There is nothing unsafe about a semi. If you are a safe shooter, you are a safe shooter regardless of how many rounds per second you are dumping.
 
Welcome newbie

hey cereal83,

You sound like me about a year ago. I had just gotten my PAL and was looking to buy my first rifle. After lots of research and some good advice i opted for a ruger 10/22 carabine (ruger is the company name & 10/22 is the model). In the past year i've blasted over 5000 rounds without any major problems.The possibilities are endless with a 10/22, they are probably the cheapest and easiest guns to modify. I no longer have what they call a factory (original, strait out of the box/factory) 10/22. I fell upon an addicting site that made me another one of its victims... here why don't you go have a look.... hehehe
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/

Some guns are particular about which ammo they like best (.22 especially), so it is recommended that you try as many different types and brands of ammo as possible. you asked what would be the maximum amount of ammo permited by law in Canada in your magazine, well the good news is if you have a RIMFIRE .22, there is no limit. you could have a 5000 drum clip attached and be within law. But if you want a high capacity mag, a butler creek steel lips 25 round clip would be your best choice.

Some people would discourage the use of a semi-auto for a beginer. As working man put it. "Every time you fire the gun automatically ejects the spent case and loads a live round. Very easy for an inexperienced shooter to have an accident". You will have to learn to play safe with your guns. Not to mention that it is also very important (especially if your planning on hunting) to make the first shot count, a one shot kill !!!.... a semi might encourage a newbie to get a little trigger happy... hahaha :D

Jim Bell was also right on about hunting grouse. It would quite challenging, but possible. And you would have better success with a shotgun.Still i do recommend a .22 as a first rifle, as you might develop a flinch if you were to start with a high calibre. not to mention that ammo is inexpensive, and you will get alot of practice shooting done to master your stance, trigger squeeze ect.

"how far will they shoot", you asked? with a .22lr your looking to be shooting to kill between 25-75 yards. your bullet however can travel up to 1 1/2 miles.

by all means i am no expert but do have some recommendations for your future purchases. you can find alot of good deals in the equipment exchange forum here at CGN.

Also, If you are looking to buy a new high calibre rifle i'd recommend savage arms, they are cheap and good shooters right out of the box. I bought the savage stevens model 200 in 30-06 (350$)and am very happy with my purchase.
http://www.savagearms.com/centerfire_home.htm
http://www.savagearms.com/st_200long.htm

Also you might want to check out the rhineland R22 (.22lr non-restricted) 600$
http://www.rhinelandarms.com/

And a good tacticle style shotgun
winchester defender
http://www.winchesterguns.com/prodinfo/catalog/detail.asp?cat_id=512&type_id=907&cat=012C

or
remington 870
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/shotguns/model_870/model_870_express_synthetic_18inch.asp

inform yourself, read alot,and do not let yourself be intimidated. there are a great bunch of guys here that are always willing to help. so have fun and keep shooting!!!

p.s. Welcome to CGN's
 
Everybody and their dog has a ruger, I wanted an accurate 22 that I wouldnt have to spend 1k on to make accurate. I picked up a Savage MkII BV and Ive been laughing ever since.
 
Jim Bell said:
I agree with the last post that a semi auto is a downright dangerous weapon for a beginner to start with.
I recommend getting a Norinco JW15 bolt action from www.marstar.ca
It only costs $150 and you will have a lot of fun with a less dangerous 22. Marstar will post it to you.
Once you have got used to your safe operation methods being 2nd nature to you and have had some experience you can progress to a Ruger 10/22.
That Norinco JW15 is a whole lot more accurate than the 10/22 and you wont have to pour a fortune into it to try and improve it.
As far as shooting Partridge (grouse) you will only be able to shoot them if they hold still on the ground. Most Grouse explode upward from beside you and have to be shot on the wing with a shotgun. Trying to shoot Grouse on the wing with a 22LR is hopeless and very dangerous as you don't know where that shot is going to go . It can travel a good mile or more. Remember to choose your shot with a reasonable backstop as you don't know who else is in the woods.
I'm surprised that none of the previous posts didn't mention the hunting Partridge aspect. Maybe they don't hunt Partridge.
Good luck
Jim
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ACTS + PROVE


If you can't do both, you shouldn't even be touching a firearm to begin with.
 
Ultimately the final decision is yours as to whether you go semiauto or bolt but for somebody just starting out you may want to have a real good look at a bolt action. Like was posted above, Armrus has the TOZ 78 at $100:eek: so for $127 its sitting at your doorstep. Cheap and highly accurate. An excellent choice for both starters and experienced, but you will need to spend some time learning pratical safety and handling other than whats in a book too. The TOZ is a fine piece, but you may want to get a better understanding of the mechanics before trying to rip it apart...Check out www.armrus.com and look under long guns, carbines..
The 10/22's will always be around but the deal on the TOZ I expect will be short lived.. Just my $.02CAD..
Enjoy, and welcome
dB:)
 
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