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One bubba'd (but very nicely done!) and one that looks to be all original. The original one is marked "no 4 Mk 1....but has more stamppings above it. It says "No4 MK 1/2 (F) FTR" Can anybody tell me if I should be looking for something that would make this gun unique? Or is it "just another enfield"

The "bubbad" one is marked No 4 MK 1* Longbranch 1942. Every piece of metal has been polished and re-blued to a high gloss. The stock has been replaced with tiger-walnut....beautiful workmanship, but did they destroy it? Also..the folding rear sight is marked "MK III"

Oh yeah...values on both?

TIA!

Ryan
 
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Your rifle has gone through FTR (Factory Thorough Repair) at which time it was upgraded to No4 Mk1/2 configuration by having the trigger mounted on the reciever instead of on the trigger guard.
No4Mk1" rifles became No4 Mk1/3's

Just a caveat here. If you are going to remove the forend for any reason, that screw at the arse end of the forend must be removed or it will foul on the fixture holding the trigger.
 
You rifle started out life as a Mk1 and was FTRed at Fazakerly where they modifyed it to the Mk2. (trigger was brazed to the reciever instead of being pined to the trigger guard.)

As far as "uniquness" I'm not sure how many Mk1s were converted, (many I know but compared to Mk1s or Mk2s I'd guess consederably less?)
Others can probably give you more info on that.

Nice find!
Lee-lad.

Ehh, John you beat me to it!
 
Don't automatically dismiss the LB sporter. So very fine gunsmithing can be done on these rifles. My father had a perfectly serviceable one-piece stock rifle built by a man he know well and respected. It was his #1 deer rifle for many years, after putting his No.5 carbine in the cabinet.
 
"...did they destroy it?..." As a milsurp collector's rifle, yes. However, check the headspace(on both) and don't worry about it. That stock could be worth more than the rifle. Good aftermarket walnut stocks aren't cheap anymore. Slug the bore on both too. Hammer a cast .30 cal bullet though the barrel and measure the bullet with a micrometer. An Enfield barrel can measure from .311" to .315" and still be considered ok. Anything bigger than .315" is shot out. Then use the appropriate bullet diameter. It'd be a friggin shame too. A well done sporterization of a No. 4 isn't a crime. Sometimes Bubba was an artist.
 
Here ya go!
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Sporter looks like a nicely done commercial conversion, probably by Parker Hale. Would make a decent hunting rifle. The unaltered rifle is a presentable specimen. The sporter could sell for as much as $300, assuming that the bore is clear, and the scope is problem free. These rifles are not in high demand, might be necessary to take less. With a good bore, the service rifle should bring at least $250.
 
I have a Parker Hale that looks alot like your sporter. The stock and front site are the same but mine does not have the charger guide. Does your rifle have a PH barrel and sling swivels? If you do have a PH barrel it is probably in good shape and most likely a true 311. I got mine from someone who thought it was just a nice bubba , a real PH is a keeper for sure.
 
The stock set appears to be a "Sile", made in Italy, used by PH on their better conversions. The better grade of conversions also had very nice rebluing. It may well have "Sile" stamped in the barrel channel. Take the forend off. If the inletting is machine cut, with little hand work, its commercial. Also where the screw goes through laterally, in front of the buttsocket, there may be a little spacer clamped in place, so the stock could be used on either a Mk.I with the spacer in place, or Mk. II action with the spacer removed. Does it have UK proofs? Usually the PH sporters are marked on the top of the barrel. The scope base is a Weaver T-01. Can't tell from the photos, but does the barrel breech have the Nock's Form flat, or is it round. If its round, the barrel is a comercial replacement, rather than being the original issue barrel.
 
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OK...the sling swivels are marked PH, but the barrel is marked BNP (as is the reciever) Barrel is also marked ".303 2.222" on one side, and F 53 and what looks like "GH/PB" (firsst two letters are very hard to tell) on the other side.

Barrel is flat topped.

But Plate is PH England, and the inside of the channel IS marked "Sile"

Ryan
 
BNP - Birmingham Nitro Proof, .303 2.222" are the commercial proofs. These are sound hunting rifles. The difference in handling and shooting resulting from the sporting stock is pronounced.
 
Nice rifles, I just picked up a Parker Hale No1 sporter and shot it for the first time yesterday. Sighting it in at 100m put the first 2 rounds in the same hole! The third was 3/4" above. Not bad for an old military rifle I had never fired before. Give the Sporter a serious consideration as a deer rifle, they are very nicely done.
Cheers
 
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