just received my new Ljungman ag42 need help identifying caliber

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Well I finally received my ag42, it was sold to me from the gun dealer in n-b. It was sold to me as a 8mm mauser. I do not have any 8mm or 6.5x55 round to chamber to verify the caliber of the gun.

Now I know 100% its an ag42, but I was told by thegundealer. Com gunsmith that it is chambered in 8mm, he chambered a 8mm while I was on the phone, he saide it fitted flush and also he check the 6.5x55 and said it was loose and fell in the chamber.

Here are some pictures if you guys can tell me what you think, was it worth the 400 $? Rifling seems good bore s dark but I haven't have the time to clean it.

O and sorry about the crappy cell phone pic it's dark and late here.

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I feel comfortable having paid 400 $ for this, I also have big doubt that this rifle is 6.5 and not 8mm. What about the condition rating, it was advertised very good, does it looks to you? I guess very good in a 1943 non refurbish rifle and very good on a use rifle 3-4 years old is different too.


Also the arsenal disc what is it telling me?
 
looks like its a 6.5x55 easiest way to tell is take a 30 cal bullet and put in the muzzle if it falls in its 8mm since its .323 if it dosnt its 6.5 I would say it looks good in the pics seems like a fair price
 
6.5x55 Swedish.

If she was a Hakim, you would know by Arabic on the rear sight.

You have a nice beech stock on that Ljungmann as well :).
 
It's definitely a Swede. The stock disk says you have a condition 2 bore which is better than 3 but not as good as 1, and that the throat of your chamber measures 6.50mm.
 
rally guy said:
I feel comfortable having paid 400 $ for this, I also have big doubt that this rifle is 6.5 and not 8mm. What about the condition rating, it was advertised very good, does it looks to you? I guess very good in a 1943 non refurbish rifle and very good on a use rifle 3-4 years old is different too.


Also the arsenal disc what is it telling me?
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Look very good. The arsenal disc tell manys things. The first row of number indicate the maximum bore diameter in your case 6.51. Second row is the minimum dia, 6.48. The small section of the disc have #2 marked, mean that you have a grade 2 bore cond, light pitting in the groove. The last section marked Torped mean that the rifle sights are calibrated for the M41 140gr bullet.

Joce
 
I will be going to my local gun store Thursday night or Friday to test 8mm and 6.5 round in the chamber to test out this 8mm claim.
 
Let me be the first to remind you - the Ljungman thirsts for human blood, particularly the stuff in your fingers and thumbs. It will only be happy when you've slammed the action closed on a digit and bled all over creation.

Do not let the action slam closed on an empty chamber. This is Swede Abuse, and she will not like it.

Do not check cartridge fit by chambering a round in the store. If it slamfires, you will not be welcome there again. If you try it with an 8x57 (which your rifle is most assuredly NOT, despite what the guy on Gunbroker told you, the lying sack of poo) it'll hang up partway in, and the bolt will give it a hell of a smack trying to make that square peg fit in that round hole. Will it light the primer? Beats me. But I wouldn't chance it.

Your rifle is in 6.5x55 Swedish, a brilliant cartidge. It likes to shoot well, but seems to have an aversion to empty cases. Upon firing, it will attempt to throw the empties so far away that people in the province to your right will call to complain. Look here for how to make your gas system adjustable:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?309212-Adjustable-gas-system-to-Ljungman

It's a 6.5. Enjoy. And don't trust the smith you spoke with on anything ever again.
 
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Dark Alley Dan said:
Let me be the first to remind you - the Ljungman thirsts for human blood, particularly the stuff in your fingers and thumbs. It will only be happy when you've slammed the action closed on a digit and bled all over creation.

Do not let the action slam closed on an empty chamber. This is Swede Abuse, and she will not like it.

Do not check cartridge fit by chambering a round in the store. If it slamfires, you will not be welcome there again. If you try it with an 8x57 (which your rifle is most assuredly NOT, despite what the guy on Gunbroker told you, the lying sack of poo) it'll hang up partway in, and the bolt will give it a hell of a smack trying to make that square peg fit in that round hole. Will it light the primer? Beats me. But I wouldn't chance it.

Your rifle is in 6.5x55 Swedesh, a brilliant cartidge. It likes to shoot well, but seems to have an aversion to empty cases. Upon firing, it will attempt to throw the empties so far away that people in the province to your right will call to complain. Look here for how to make your gas system adjustable:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?309212-Adjustable-gas-system-to-Ljungman

It's a 6.5. Enjoy. And don't trust the smith you spoke with on anything ever again.
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Well I am number 1, a safe shooter and number 2 not that dumb :p. What I was meaning is I will take the bolt carrier off the rifle and try with my finguer the rounds. And yes I believe you are right about this being 6.5. But I need to go the the gun store to buy ammo so I will service thegundealer. Com claim that it is 8mm by taking a minute to very there claims.
 
"...thegundealer. Com gunsmith...to chamber to verify the caliber..." He's an incompetent idiot. That isn't how it's done.
"...a Hakim, you would know by Arabic..." Yep. Hakims were made in Egypt.
"...Ljungman thirsts for human blood..." Nonsense. Getting bit by one is operator failure. Learn how to use it properly.
"...will attempt to throw the empties..." There's actually a theoretical 'tactical' reason for that. Supposedly to keep a wee pile of shiney brass from growing next to a PBI's position and lettingthe BG's know where he is.
 
sunray said:
"...Ljungman thirsts for human blood..." Nonsense. Getting bit by one is operator failure. Learn how to use it properly.
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Lighten up, Francis. :)

I've owned a few of these over the years, and never been bitten. But I am aware of the risk, and was attempting, in my apparently too subtle way, to use humour while letting "rally guy" know about the risk. Sorry you missed it.
 
Pics are kinda dark but I don't think I would describe it as "very good" wood looks somewhat banged up. Fair condition perhaps.

A friend got one years ago that looks like it just came from the factory, I would call that "very good" or new condition.

We learned very quickly to keep fingers in the correct places and the fear the far flung scorching brass. We had a theory that it was so that do one could flank a firing Swedish soldier without getting whacked by burning brass!
 
As in the previous thread, there's nothing in the pictures to suggest it'll be anything other than 6.5x55. That said, I understand your desire to verify it...if the vendor suggested it was something else, it may be in something else. I just can't imagine anyone going through the cost n' effort to re-bore it (it is hosting an original swede barrel).

Sorry for slow post. I didn't realize you'd devoted a new thread to this!
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
Let me be the first to remind you - the Ljungman thirsts for human blood, particularly the stuff in your fingers and thumbs. It will only be happy when you've slammed the action closed on a digit and bled all over creation.
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Yeah, many years ago I got bit on my thumb when I pushed down on the follower. WHAM!!!

Hurt like stink and yes I did bleed.
 
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