Just Right Carbines. Should be called PERFECT carbines. Exceptional Carbines?

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They are hugely popular in Canada because they are non-restricted and since they take pistol mags (Pistol Caliber Carbine..PCC) we can have a "rifle" that legally holds up to 12 rounds in the magazine. They aren't quite as affordable as a Kel-Tec Sub2000...I suppose I could have said CHEAP when talking about the S2K (no offense intended towards S2K owners) ...and of course a S2K is on my GAS (Gun Acquisition Syndrome) list but good LUCK getting one. They do come available but are usually scooped-up pretty fast.

The JRC though is just more of a "serious" unit than the S2K kind of. Again..the S2K is Supercool in a novelty kind of way but the JRC is borderline AR15 in feel and quality of fit and finish. AFAIK there isn't a lower priced non-restricted NEW PCC on the market for us up here (notwithstanding the S2K again of course). I don't THINK they make a Hi-Point 9mm carbine that is NR do they? If so I probably GAS more for one of those than a S2K just cause theyre SO cheap. Uhum...AFFORDABLE.

When you research the JRCs you WILL find negative reviews. Quite a few of them. Youtube is full of them BUT you need to take them with a grain of salt. Many are referring to the EARLY JRCs and especially the EARLY ones chambered in .45ACP.
Yes, JRC suffered from some early growing pains but one of the things that makes them such a great company is that they LISTEN to their customers and so with their input, JRC managed to upgrade the actions and buffers and maybe a few other components that caused trouble in their early releases and nowadays their guns, even the .45s run as they were always intended.

So...without going in to all their features like their ambidexterity and compatibility with AR15 components, the included quad rail foregrip, threaded barrels...blah blah blah...they ARE an amazing value. Oh on a SIDENOTE: Their prices are SURE to start climbing pretty drastically if our CAD doesn't hurry up and smarten-up and be worth more than $0.86 damned CENTS!!!.
Point is...the JRC is a value worth a lot more $ than they retail for. Their stiffest competition is the Thureon Defense carbine. Well maybe not their stiffest competition but the TD is probably the one that resembles the JRC the closest. It seems like a great unit too but it's more $, less ambidextrous and with fewer standard features (like that JRC quad rail) than the JRC. And the TD ALSO suffered some early release growing-pains.

None of that is the best thing about the JRCs though. Maybe the greatest feature that company offers is their amazing customer service.
You will read and hear a LOT about that when you do your research.

I was a little put-off by the fact that the bcg in the JRCs isn't "supported" or guided by anything other than the charging handle when the bcg is out of battery. I came up with a fix/idea (but a fix isn't even necessary...they have been out there for a bunch of years now and one thing you will NOT find in your research is people complaining about premature wear on any of the JRC's components.
My "idea" or solution was so simple it was stupid. If people are worried about the fact that the charging handle is responsible for keeping the bcg from rotating and not engaging the "slide"(?) when it comes back into battery, all they have to do is to buy a second charging handle and installing it on the other side of the bolt extension. BOOM! Dual bolt "rails".
I contacted JRC to see about buying a charging handle and explained why I wanted one.
Not only was my email replied to within literal MINUTES, the reply went a little something like this: "We have mailed you a charging handle. NO CHARGE!" . I don't know if they intended the pun but WOW!

So after getting my JRC I noticed that the top forend rail was a bit misaligned with the receiver's top rail. No biggie. All you have to do is loosen that castlenut and re-orient the forend and tighten her back up.
WRONG!!!
I could NOT get that damned thing to break loose. I tried first with a hunk of plastic. Shreaded the plastic. I found a nice long hunk of plexiglass and beat the snot out of IT for a while. Wouldn't even BUDGE! Stepped it up to a brass drift and STILL no-go.
YES, I was trying to get it to turn the right way.

Time for another email to JRC for HELP!!!
I asked why tools weren't included with the carbine. I mean...if you're gonna use takedown (allen head) screws instead of pins, include the proper wrenches. Man those things are so tiny. If a guy used a metric allen key instead of an imperial one, or the wrong (smaller) imperial key those hex heads would strip out faster than you could say..OH SH!T...
They replied saying that to include the JRC wrench with each firearm would raise the overall price significantly. They said also that they felt that a LOT of JRC buyers also own AR15s so will already HAVE a tool that fits. I agreed with the pricepoint part but reminded them that in Canada, where the JRCs are so popular, AR15s are restricted weapons. Many of us turn to the JRC BECAUSE it is NOT restricted and some of us..or a lot of us don't WANT a restricted weapon (again...its why some of us go to JRC in the first place). So no. I disagree that most JRC buyers already own ARs and so already have the tool. Lol..I didn't think to ask...do all the ARs come with tools or do the AR manufacturers say..."we didn't include one cause we know that most of you Canadians own JRCs" lol.

I told them that either way, I would be ordering one of their wrenches because I just CAN'T break this damned forend nut loose.
Well AGAIN they went above and beyond and shipped me a wrench for FREE!!! Well not FREE free...they sprung for the shipping. They sure didn't have to.

So my POINT for all this blithering is...
If you are thinking about buying or are on the fence trying to decide whether to pull the trigger (pun intended) on a JRC...DO IT!!
Their early issues have all been rectified, their pricing is still just about the best bang for your buck (yup...intended again), and/but ESPECIALLY, with their Customer Service you are GUARANTEED to own a firearm that is going to work and keep on working and if for some reason there IS an issue with it, well I can testify first hand that you will not find better support from ANY manufacturer of ANYTHING.

MAN I'm SO glad I chose a JRC!!

Oh...almost forgot. My wee BCG guide (dual charging handles) idea was a bit of a fail. I forgot to realize that in order to lock the bolt in the open position you have to rotate the bcg for the charging handle to sit in the holdback slot. You can't rotate the bolt if you have that second charging handle installed. Hey, I don't think the TD even HAS a bolt hold open slot like the JRCs do so I guess it's a choice between...do I think it NEEDS the dualies? Will there be (alignment or wear) issues with only one charging handle? If you think so, add the second handle. Yes you will no longer be able to use the hold open slot but that might not be an huge deal for you.
My next useless and unnecessary upgrade is ...I'm thinking about adding a second extractor. Yesterday I made mine more left handed so I moved the extractor and ejection port cover to the opposite sides and thought...hmmm....I know that usually 2 extractors are better than one. It's so easy to add or swap extractors in these things and the extractors are so cheap (like 4 bucks?)...I think I'll order me one.
Is there any reason NOT to add a second extractor?

OK I'll (finally) shut up now. I just HAD to come tell y'all that the JRCs are all updated and upgraded and WORK now. Even in .45ACP! That they are one helluva bargain and that JRC's Customer Service is just RIDICULOUS!!! Man if everything I owned came with the JRC style of service...yeah you're right. That is utterly IMPOSSIBLE!
Get your Just Right Carbines TODAY fellas. Prices WILL start to skyrocket on these and everything coming from the States pretty quick if our dollar doesn't smarten up like YESTERDAY! :-(
 
Man, can you start limiting your posts to less than 100 words already? Every post you type reads like a neurotic wall of text.
 
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I couldn't read all that but I will throw my 2 cents in, there junk anything that you need a set of tools to clean is not a good firearm. Just a way overpriced toy not a good firearm. And yes I had one in .40 and was able to trade out of and yes I did tell the new owner the problems even took him out to test fire it would shoot 7-8 out of a 10 round mag.
 
I couldn't read all that but I will throw my 2 cents in, there junk anything that you need a set of tools to clean is not a good firearm. Just a way overpriced toy not a good firearm. And yes I had one in .40 and was able to trade out of and yes I did tell the new owner the problems even took him out to test fire it would shoot 7-8 out of a 10 round mag.

^^^This, buy a Thureon.
 
Ive had a whole lot of problems with my 9mm jrc until i learned to always run it dripping wet, sold it a few months after that. FTF, FTE, rounds stuck requiring me to mallet it out. Seems your story is pretty much the same story all over the place, there isn't one jrc out there without at least one problem needing fixing and a call to their SUPERB customer service.
Woooptido, Id rather have 0 issues and crappy customer service than 3 or 4 issues and superb service
Requires tools to disassemble.
Is held together with screws not pins.
Its very heavy.
So not really worth 1000$ maybe at most worth 500$. Sorry, but frankly we have very different opinions on this product.
 
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a wrench is not a "set of tools"
It's a very nice wrench...:d

I bought the takedown tube at the same time, haven't tried it out yet though.
 
Man, didn't read the essay the OP wrote, might want to condense your posts from now on.

I like my JRC but once it gets dirty it has issues (and it gets dirty fast). The takedown is a pain too. Other than that, it can be reliable when clean and lubed properly.

My Thureon Defense was reliable right out of the box, easy AR style takedown and eats anything even when dirty. The TD and the Beretta carbine are both better, hands down.
 
Thats one long ass story. Im with the rest they should be called junks right carbine. The thureon is only a few hundred more and is twice the rifle.
 
FINALLY got mine working really well...looked at my receipt from Wanstalls and realized that I bought it back in March 2013. So it took 21 months and three attempts from JRC to get my .45 feeding reliably, even when it's dirty. To their credit, they were always responsive and never did leave me high and dry. And now that it's cycling reliably, I am really enjoying it.
 
What was your fix?

Mine is run it wet, only use ball ammo, and put the mag springs in front to back.
 
Here's what mine went through:

When bought originally, it already had the buffer extension and heavier buffer installed from the factory. Was failing to feed at least a round or two with every factory Glock 21 mag.
Did the magazine spring modification as suggested by JRC...fed better, but was still failing a round or two every second mag. Got worse as the gun got dirty.
JRC recommended that I cut 5 coils out of the buffer spring. First time I took it to the range, the trigger would fail to reset frequently.
JRC finally sent me a HUGE buffer, new buffer spring, new feed ramp, and had me cone out the chamber to new specs. Now it feeds reliably, with a variety of factory ammo, even when dirty.
 
Mine was new last spring and has a buffer that must weigh a pound or more. It's bad every few mags with the 9th or 8th round it seems.
 
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