Just trying to get some info on this rifle schmidtt reuben K31

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Trying to find out when it was made I have looked at the swiss rifles website but the 1+ in 1+12849 if confusing.

Just looking this up for my mother and I have no real knowledge of these rifles.

From the Mom

30-30 WCF switzerland

1+12849 ( the # is in 2 different places-the plus sign is actually a little cross-like st johns, and a little under the 2 ones )
they are on the barrel part that attaches to the mech part-one # on each piece-somewhere I read that inside the butt stock a number should be there as well as the person's name that the gun was originally issued to, but I'm not taking the butt off to see, you can.also on the butt stock there is a number "2" and then on the edge "375'

also funny marks on the top part of the barrel one looks like a lopside 3 leaf clover sort of and the other is a rectangle indented with the letter v and then some blob thingy above it. they are both very small.




Thanks alot
 
Can you take a pictures of it's details and post them here?
30-30 caliber tells me it is a sporterized/converted 1889. Later 1911 were mostly converted to 308.
12849 serial number puts it in first year production run (1891), 1-24900.
Why 1 in front? No idea, but not likely part of serial number
+ could be a small Swiss cross or, more likely, the symbol for Hämmerli, a Hammer.

Does magazine look like this?


Alpine Sporter were 1911 models converted to 308 by Sante Fe.
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Diopter, many of those conversions of the 1911 had mags shortened to hold 5 rounds as you very likely know. That information was more for the OP than you.

International Firearms which was a huge importer that used to have warehouses in Montreal imported most of those rifles into Canada. Whether Santa Fe Arms as well as many other distributors in the US got them out of Montreal or not I don't know.

I have one of those rifles and it is a dream to shoot. I easily handles all weights of factory loads. I also hand load for mine. I like it because I can load the cartridges to higher pressures and use pointed bullets.

They have one thing that many consider to be a drawback and there have been some cases where there have been some failures. None catastrophic that I know of.

The chambers are sweated in inserts that have been chambered to 30-30 Win. There are rumors of the inserts coming loose and falling out on extraction and I have heard of the joint between the barrel and the insert in the leade burning a ring. I haven't seen that occur in my rifle.

Be what it may, they normally sell for under $100 and IMHO they are way undervalued.

I recently gave one of those to a 14 year old that just got his CORE certificate. He started shooting it last summer and really likes it. His father was going to give him a model 94 and probably will in the future but he likes the 1911 with its 4X Weaver Steelite. He shoots it very well and likes the light recoil it generates.
 
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