K100 issue (ammo? mags?)

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Hey,

I finally had a chance to try out the K100, thanks to BrentSc ;-)

The gun felt great, I won't bother repeating all the positive things others have said (trigger, balance, etc). There were only two issues which I came across:

a) I'd need an extended mag release, which might be available, and

b) out of 50 rounds fired (5 mags), three mags had a failure to feed the very last round (the round got stuck going into the chamber, the angle was too high, it didn't go in). This was across two shooters with different shooting speeds (from rapid fire, to fairly slow) - in all three cases it was the same problem on the same round (last). Out of 5 mags? That's not chance...
I donno, maybe it doesn't like for whatever reason, the ammo (Winchester USA 115gr FMJ - not WinClean). I was running late so I didn't get a chance to try different ammo, just my match grade...

Had anyone seen this behaviour? What ammo have you been shooting out of the K100? It's a great gun, and assuming (a) and (b) can be dealt with I'd love to get one, but I had too many mag/feeding problems with the CZ-85C to want to get another gun with similar issues... ;-)

Thanks!

Ohhh, P.s. A ridiculously (!!!!!!) short trigger reset, haha - this is my gun, if we can get the above worked out!
 
Omen, was great to meet you. Nice rapid shooting.. :shock: :D

Just want to add, the 2 mags were the factory supplied. Prior to Omen experiencing the F2F's, the gun had 1 box of 147gr (winclean) put through it by me. I did not get any F2F then. I was only loading 5 rounds each string , and they were all slow fire.

Regards, Brent
 
Musky Hunter said:
Can u use modified CZ75 mags in the K100 and still be production lega? keke...just wondering!

If you took cz075 mags and modified them yourself, well, actually, I guess, since you can use non-factory mags as long as they match the dimentions of the originals, right? Even if not, if that's what's supplied by the OFM, well, that's 'legal' ;-)
 
Great report Omen, I had no feeding problems with the one I tested. There were factory mags and fed properly from slow to rapid firing.
 
Omen : thanks for your report. I very glad for it.
extendet mags release is availaible for few money. all of Slovak ipsc squad use this.
about feeding problems : Idont know any problems with feeding , if i use our mags.
we have diferent mags follover than CZ :))
sorry for my not correct english.
Yours
Yaro
 
maybe problems with feeding are by not corect made mags catch hole in Czts mags....
Yaro
 
k100 said:
maybe problems with feeding are by not corect made mags catch hole in Czts mags....
Yaro

Yaro, the F2F's was with the 2 supplied 'factory' mags that came with the gun from Marstar. Are the mags supplied with the gun here in Canada Grand Power mags, or are they modified CZ mags?
I noticed on your website, all the mags in the pics have red followers... they are black on mine... any difference?

Regards, Brent
 
man I hate to say it again, but I am very impressed by k100 being here to answer questions. I gotta get my hands on one of these guns to play with.
 
yeah, as Brent mentioned, this was done using the 'factory' mags, and in fact, the shooting was spread across both of the mags, and each one had that last-round failure...

Maybe it's the grip, the hold, whatever, or maybe a combination of that with the ammo... Maybe I'll bug Brent to come over to Sharon to shoot some more types of ammo from that gun, haha
 
omen said:
yeah, as Brent mentioned, this was done using the 'factory' mags, and in fact, the shooting was spread across both of the mags, and each one had that last-round failure...

Maybe it's the grip, the hold, whatever, or maybe a combination of that with the ammo... Maybe I'll bug Brent to come over to Sharon to shoot some more types of ammo from that gun, haha

Sounds like an invite to me... :D

I'll bring the gun, you bring the bullets (sounds like a western song...).

Regards, Brent
 
BrentSc said:
k100 said:
maybe problems with feeding are by not corect made mags catch hole in Czts mags....
Yaro

Yaro, the F2F's was with the 2 supplied 'factory' mags that came with the gun from Marstar. Are the mags supplied with the gun here in Canada Grand Power mags, or are they modified CZ mags?
I noticed on your website, all the mags in the pics have red followers... they are black on mine... any difference?

Regards, Brent

Brent, could you tellme whats is the F2F??? i dont unerstand.
red followers are original from Italy. not so good. black is our follower, our designing, our product.
From Marstar you got (i believe) original GP mags.
But i must say : GP mags are CZ with aditional hole for magazine catch and with GP followers.
with this ( Marstars ) mags - have you got any problems ?
yours
Yaro
 
FTF = Failure to Feed, or sometimes Failure to Fire. I think in this case it's fail to feed.
 
k100 said:
Slavex said:
FTF = Failure to Feed, or sometimes Failure to Fire. I think in this case it's fail to feed.

Thanks
Yaro

Correct, I meant Failure to Feed. I guess that is one of the problems with acronyms..especially for non primary english speaking people.

Yaro, I would like to comment one more time how refreshing and appreciative it is having a manufacturer willing to chat on their product. I can certainly see the K100 becomming more popular within the CGN community.

Regards, Brent
 
Hi again,

I must say, the gun was/felt/etc very nice. With an extended mag release and adjustable sights, it would be perfect (I don't want fiber optic for myself, just adjustable rear sights, metal so I can make the opening wider with a file).

But I was sooo frustrated by the feeding problems I experienced with my CZ guns/mags, I'll have to shoot the K100 a number more times without experiencing any problems before I'm ready to switch. I'd like to go in that direction, but maybe I'm just unlucky with guns from the former Czechoslovakia ;-)

I'll stick to the NP22 for the Triangle match, and we'll see how it goes with the K100 later on in winter time. Marstar will have the extra sights/etc by then, hopefully.

Ohh, Yaro, if the K100 comes with fully adjustable sights, you might want to mention that on your website, there are no pics/etc of that, and for Production Division purposes, we need to have proof that's an available factory configuration (some of the officials/people/etc are getting a little anal about following those rules). Same thing about the extended mag release.

Thanks, all!
 
Ohh, Yaro, if the K100 comes with fully adjustable sights, you might want to mention that on your website, there are no pics/etc of that, and for Production Division purposes, we need to have proof that's an available factory configuration (some of the officials/people/etc are getting a little anal about following those rules). Same thing about the extended mag release.

:) Yes, no problem. i need order only
The problems with feeding that you have spoken about are with high probability caused with that fact, that the magazines delivered to Canada are restricted to 10 rounds capacity. By normal magazines with 17 rounds capacity has this problem never occurred.
It is probable that the magazine spring is deccerated (slow downed) by stamping in this 10 rounds magazines. I thing, that probably it is necessary to disassemble this magazines, check up that the end of spring is in the correct position in feeder, in other case it is necessary to bend gently the end of the spring so, that the end of the spring fit its correct place.
We deliver K100 model TARGET in series with full adjustable micrometric rear sight, enlarged magazine releases and customized trigger.
But we can prepare K100 according individual wish of our customer.

Yours
Yaro
 
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