Kahles K525i scope rings/mount for Tikka T3X Tac A1

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Here is the rifle, scope information I found so far when looking for the right rings/mount
0MOA Picatinny Rail on rifle

Scope has 56mm objective lens diameter and 62mm objective (outer) diameter
https://www.optics-trade.eu/ca/kahles-k525i-5-25x56.html

So from my understanding, I need to get the rings/mount with at least 31mm height(half of the objective outer diameter). I found the following rings and mounts with at least 34mm(1.375inch) height.
Would this height be enough? Or better leave more space in case?
Badger rings
https://www.badgerordnance.com/scope-rings/34-mm-scope-ring-extra-high-1-375.html
https://www.badgerordnance.com/scope-rings/34-mm-scope-ring-ultra-high-1-49.html


Spuhr mounts
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/6/sp-4602.html
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/13/sp-4802.html
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/13/sp-4808.html

And for the mount tilt ability, Spuhr website said(https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/choose-your-mount.html), "To allow for the greatest available range of adjustment choose a mount with a tilt that is half of the scope’s range of elevation".
According to Kahles website, it shows 29MIL or 100MOA for elevation.
https://www.kahles.at/us/competition/products/riflescopes/?tx_kahlesproducts_category%5Bproduct%5D=117&tx_kahlesproducts_category%5Baction%5D=show&tx_kahlesproducts_category%5Bcontroller%5D=Product&cHash=1e48476f28fb33b3a7c2c59f93ee2caa

So from my understanding choosing a mount with about 14-15MIL or 50MOA elevation adjustment would be good for long range like over 1000m.

These 2 Spuhr mounts giving about 38mm(1.5inch) and 44mm(1.73inch) on height and 13MIL/44.4MOA sounds a good choice.
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/13/sp-4802.html
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/13/sp-4808.html


Someone on sniperhide forum have a Spuhr SP-4602 (38mm/1.5inch height), mentioned having problem to put scope cover on his NightForce ATAC-R, which has same objective lens diameter as Kahles K525i, because of the space left between the objective outer to the picatinny rail.
http://forum.snipershide.com/threads/tikka-t3x-tac-a1-first-impressions.6448410/


After all, it seems my options left with
Badger rings with 1.49inch height
https://www.badgerordnance.com/scope-rings/34-mm-scope-ring-ultra-high-1-49.html

Spuhr mount with 44mm(1.73inch) height and 13MIL/44.4MOA tilt ability
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/isms/sp/34/13/sp-4808.html

Am I on the right direction?

Thanks a lot.
 
Get the 20 MOA mount. If you are at the extreme edges (40 MOA) your optical quality degrades slightly.

I think you mentioned in your other thread this was going on 6.5 Creed so a 20 MOA mount will get you where you need to go.
 
Ryan.M.Anderson said:
Get the 20 MOA mount. If you are at the extreme edges (40 MOA) your optical quality degrades slightly.

I think you mentioned in your other thread this was going on 6.5 Creed so a 20 MOA mount will get you where you need to go.
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yes, this is the 6.5 creedmoor. If the 20 MOA is enough for most of the case between 5-1500yards/meters, I think it should be good enough.

Thank you.
 
Positioning a scope on a rifle is no different the fitting a pair of shoes... use what fits YOU.

If you have the rifle and optic, just position it over the rifle and move it around until it fits YOU in the varies positions you will shoot it. Roll up a towel and some duct tape will get this job done.

Once you find a comfy location, measure from the top of the back of the scope rail to the bottom of the scope tube. This is the height of the rings.

Then source the rings accordingly.

If by chance, the scope is so big that you have to raise the scope higher then is ideal for you head position, adjust the comb height so you can see properly through the scope.

For the most precise aiming, you put the scope where you are most comfortable.... not the other way around.

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Positioning a scope on a rifle is no different the fitting a pair of shoes... use what fits YOU.

If you have the rifle and optic, just position it over the rifle and move it around until it fits YOU in the varies positions you will shoot it. Roll up a towel and some duct tape will get this job done.

Once you find a comfy location, measure from the top of the back of the scope rail to the bottom of the scope tube. This is the height of the rings.

Then source the rings accordingly.

If by chance, the scope is so big that you have to raise the scope higher then is ideal for you head position, adjust the comb height so you can see properly through the scope.

For the most precise aiming, you put the scope where you are most comfortable.... not the other way around.

Jerry
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Great advise.

Would try your method with the scope and rifle before buying any rings or mount.

Thank you.
 
If you want the Kahles 5-25 you will need rings that are a certain height - I recommend the lowest that you can use - you have already done that calculation. Unless Jerry knows some magical way to mount a 56MM scope bell on a rifle with full top rail using low rings his advice does not make any sense.

The invention of adjustable cheek pieces, strap on cheek pieces, or mouse pad and vet wrap have mitigated this problem. The Tikka Tac A1 has an adjustable cheek piece so you are also good there. I am not talking about scope height over bore. That is a different thing.
 
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Ryan.M.Anderson said:
If you want the Kahles 5-25 you will need rings that are a certain height - I recommend the lowest that you can use - you have already done that calculation.
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The trick is to use the coins. Put them under the scope so it seats properly and then measure the height of them. Then add half of the tube diameter and the total amount will be the height of the rings/mounts.

To OP: what is the point to start a separate thread every time you want to ask a question? This is the third or the fourth thread where you asking the same questions you have already received the answers for.
 
mockba77 said:
The trick is to use the coins. Put them under the scope so it seats properly and then measure the height of them. Then add half of the tube diameter and the total amount will be the height of the rings/mounts.

To OP: what is the point to start a separate thread every time you want to ask a question? This is the third or the fourth thread where you asking the same questions you have already received the answers for.
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Never tried that way. That seems like a good way to determine the height
 
mockba77 said:
The trick is to use the coins. Put them under the scope so it seats properly and then measure the height of them. Then add half of the tube diameter and the total amount will be the height of the rings/mounts.

To OP: what is the point to start a separate thread every time you want to ask a question? This is the third or the fourth thread where you asking the same questions you have already received the answers for.
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Good idea. Never thought about this way.

If the questions I asked does seem repeating, I do apologize. I might mentioned the ring height somewhere in other posts or thread I posted, but don’t think I got some answer to clear my confusions. Don’t want to waste money to buy something and find out it does fit then sell or restock it later. Thought more experienced shooters are here to save me from mistakes.

Thank you for your reply anyway.
 
And not sure if I should pick a lighter rings/mount such as spuhr over something heavy like the badger's steel ones, which the only one from badger has that height.
One is about 5oz, the other is about 12oz.
 
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