Kind of a review....Ithaca Model 37 Waterfowl

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Not sure where this should really go, but figure here is as good as any. I have been striving lately to get my collection down to three or four guns I really enjoy shooting, so have sold my handguns (may buy one in the future) for more field kind of guns. I hunt grouse every year with my .410 and so I kept that. I plan on hunting waterfowl this year, so I looked for a 12 gauge.

I found this used Ithaca Model 37 Waterfowl on the EE. The model 37 has always fascinated me and I knew I had to have it. I have heard of how slick they are and such, but never so much as held one. For the very reasonable sum of $550 I purchased what I believe to be the greatest pump gun ever made.

When it arrived I noticed it was light, it feels like low 7lbs, and it fit me amazing. The pump feels like it is sliding on roller bearings, very smooth. The bottom eject is a nice feature and you can shove a shell directly in the barrel with little effort. Mine is the Waterfowl edition, which has a nice synthetic stock, not cheap like many guns you see, it feels very solid. The rest of the gun, with the exception of the red high vis bead, is all solid steel. It is coated with a special treatment that actually is embedded in the surface of the steel, much like the surface treatment on a Glock.

I haven't been to the range in a month or so, I brought a box of clays and 150 rounds of target loads and slugs. I bought slugs to try out as I want to try deer hunting with this in the fall. I managed two 23/25 trap rounds on our getto trap range. After a bit I removed my mod choke and threw the IC one in. Time for slugs!

Picture of my gun and our facility:



In the far, top right corner you can see the shell box I filled with sand for a slug target. 50 yards out, I launched a slug at it and hit first shot, I repeated that three times with similar results, very happy with the accuracy, and I am a horrible shot.

Next I moved a box out to 80 yards and shot five shots at it. Not one hit, but I could see the impacts and I was low, windage was spot on, but elevation was about 6" out.

Here is my two boxes at 50 yards:


a pic of my gun:

I am very happy with this Model 37, it lives up to the hype. I am now wondering what would be best inside of 75 yards, slugs or buckshot? Slugs seem more than accurate to harvest a deer, but maybe buckshot is better? I could buy a rifle, but I may only do this once (deer hunting) so figure I will use a gun I have first.
 
I forgot to mention, I am not sure if Ithaca even has a dealer in Canada any longer. I know there used to be a few site sponsers that carried them, but not sure about now. I would love to one day get my hands on a 20 guage featherweight.
 
Just my opinion, but if you are trying for 75 yards with buckshot, I myself would only recommend two possible solutions for this long distance for buckshot; Winchester PDX1 Defender; 1 ounce slug & three 00 pellets (2 3/4)& the second; Hevi Shot Wild Boar two pellet .625 diameter buckshot (3inch)

Otherwise a slug; Winchester Super X foster slug (2 3/4) for deer only or any Brenneke Classic Slug for deer/black bear.
And a smoothbore slug barrel with real sights is much better for buckshot and/or slug IMO.

good luck to you!
 
I was using Challenger slugs and at 80 yards was aiming for the middle of the box, they were impacting the ground right in front of the box, so next time I will aim for the top of the box. You can definitely see when you hit the sand filled box, it flies pretty good. Will have to look at buckshot, seems like not a lot of retailers carry it here. What is a appropriate choke to use with buckshot?
 
Buck shot should only be used 40 yards and under. Our deer group has outlawed buck shot as in the past too many deer went wounded and never recovered.

Slugs have far better killing power and if you miss you miss and don't have a wounded deer. Slugs leave a far superior blood trail to follow too.
 
Buck shot should only be used 40 yards and under. Our deer group has outlawed buck shot as in the past too many deer went wounded and never recovered.

Slugs have far better killing power and if you miss you miss and don't have a wounded deer. Slugs leave a far superior blood trail to follow too.

Thanks for your reply, I think I will stick with slugs as this aligns with what I was thinking.
 
75 yards for buckshot is about 45 yards out of range at minimum in my opinion. My past experience with buckshot has taught me anything past 25 yards is starting to push its limits and after 30 don't even consider pulling the trigger. Results in flesh are far different than a stationary paper target. Congrats on your purchase. Sounds like the gun fits you well and you are obviously quite happy with it. Enjoy your first of many seasons with it.
 
The 37 waterfowl is a nice gun isn't it. What I like best is making benelli fanboys admit that my iron may in fact be better machined than their wonder pump.
I know I could buy a big auto and it would maybe be a better gun, but I love the simplicity and functionality of the ithaca design.
I'm glad I found one and kept it.

Now to find a sub gauge for grouse.
 
A new ithaca won't slam fire.

In theory they have not been manufactured as 'slamfire' since about 1975, officially. However certain police departments may or may not have required this in their own issue shotguns. Back in the day, that is.

However burning through old parts bins, varying LE and military contracts have somewhat muddied the waters on this particular subject. The third interrupter trigger might have been in existence as far back as in US military contracts 1963ish or thereabouts.

I for one, bought my first brand new 12 gauge M37 Featherlight in 1978, and it did actually slamfire.
 
My 1975 will slam fire, scared the $hit out of me the first time it happened to me, was shooting 5-stand and clearly hadn't release the trigger on a double. The call was dead and lost, at least a change of shorts wasn't required.
 
I have 2 12ga M37 feather lights I LOVE em. So much so, I bought a 2nd one should the first ever fail me. *knocks on wood.
 
Or combat.

Interesting point on the Winchester Model 12.
Historical trivia concerning the early FBI and these specific pump action shotguns.
There is some very good evidence that the so-called Kansas City Massacre, this could have had a huge contributing factor, in the death of at least two cops, with this new FBI agent, and some supposed friendly fire of two local LE officers, originating from this one Federal agent. Meaning really, his poor gun handling of this slam-fire shotgun. (maybe)
However Pretty Boy Floyd was involved in the ambush a few minutes later that gunned down the remaining officers. (maybe)
This is a strong possiblity, because it took quite a while before the FBI had actual powers of arrest, and were actually armed with firearms.

A side note on similar shotguns, it is rumored that one LAPD patrol officer, accidently shot himself to death, while mishandling a pre-1975 M37 DSPS Ithaca. (that darn errant bogger picker and muzzle control!!)
 
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