Korean M1 Grands??
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Not sure about the garands, but what do you want for that French rifle?
"...heard this?..." Yep. About 86,000 M1 Rifles and 22,000 M1 Carbines. Unknown condition. The Korean Ministry of Defence needs money. Approved by the U.S. government last September. None will be coming here.
"...its a joke..." Not funny. Insults thousands of dead French troopies.
"...its a joke..." Not funny. Insults thousands of dead French troopies.
Johnone, it's well known that a lot of WWII stuff was left in Korea. I know there was almost every description of US small arm and a lot of other equipment as well, including armor and aircraft. Other than a few museum pieces, the armor and aircraft were scrapped, by the mid seventies.
Rumor has it that there is a lot of Chinese, UK and affiliates and some stuff, left by Turkey and Greece as well. Do you know anything about these stockpiles, or are they just rumors?
Rumor has it that there is a lot of Chinese, UK and affiliates and some stuff, left by Turkey and Greece as well. Do you know anything about these stockpiles, or are they just rumors?
The CMP can't import any firearms at all. All the CMP rifles are US Military surplus and sold to the CMP. These guns are either surplus to the US military...ie rem 40x tgt's m14 rifle parts kits less bl's etc or MAP returns to the US military and sold to the CMP.
The CMP would have to work with the US military to get the guns from korea. But, it looks like OBMA has killed that option.
The CMP would have to work with the US military to get the guns from korea. But, it looks like OBMA has killed that option.
US Elections are Coming Up in November.
It's not over till the fat lady sings.
The US State Department first approved the imports over a year ago and then revoked the permit last spring.
Historically , the approve and then revoke trick has been used by US government gungrabbers to harass importers and allied suppliers. During the 1980's , the big ( 200,000 ) M1 Garand & M1 Carbine South Korean import deal took years to bear fruit. Finally Congress got involved and passed a measure to allow the 200,000 historic guns to come home. Daewoo had the ROK military contract to prep , pack & ship the guns , Blue Sky was the US importer during the 1980's deal.
This current import ban looks like a temporary nuisance , a real PITA but not permanent . The gungrabbers are already squirming as the anger rises.
It's not over till the fat lady sings.
The US State Department first approved the imports over a year ago and then revoked the permit last spring.
Historically , the approve and then revoke trick has been used by US government gungrabbers to harass importers and allied suppliers. During the 1980's , the big ( 200,000 ) M1 Garand & M1 Carbine South Korean import deal took years to bear fruit. Finally Congress got involved and passed a measure to allow the 200,000 historic guns to come home. Daewoo had the ROK military contract to prep , pack & ship the guns , Blue Sky was the US importer during the 1980's deal.
This current import ban looks like a temporary nuisance , a real PITA but not permanent . The gungrabbers are already squirming as the anger rises.
In a little over 2 more years we are likely to see a new face in the White House. Meanwhile , our Congress and Supreme Court are fairly gun friendly. Anyway , more on the ROK import issue:
www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01...everses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles/
www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/01...everses-course-forbids-sale-antique-m-rifles/
The article indicates that there are over 770,000 M1 Carbines and if they were given to South Korea by the US then one would think that they would all be US built, World War II USGI ones, and not some copy built under licence overseas.
If that is the case then those 770,000 carbines represent almost 1/8 of the total WWII production of the 6 million that were made. Be a shame to destroy that much history.
Be interesting to know what kind of shape they are in and if they were properly stored all these years.
The US gungrabbers are very concerned that other allies in Asia will want to sell their old USGI M1 Carbines and 1911 series pistols in the US market. The numbers could easily exceed one million in a few years
If the grabbers fail to stop the ROK deal , the dam could break. That could seriously damage the international gun prohibition movement.
The Russian Federation recently sold a number of WW2 USGI 1911's and Thompsons to German importers . Numbers of Garands are also for sale in Central Europe , but the origin of those Garands is unclear.
Unfortunately , many of the 1911's and Garands being sold in Germany have been welded up for the Deco market.
One of the more disgusting aspects of this whole import ban situation is that the ROK Zaytun Division did a very good job in the northern part of Iraq . They have since shifted over to A-stan and took their first A-stan KIA last winter.
If the grabbers fail to stop the ROK deal , the dam could break. That could seriously damage the international gun prohibition movement.
The Russian Federation recently sold a number of WW2 USGI 1911's and Thompsons to German importers . Numbers of Garands are also for sale in Central Europe , but the origin of those Garands is unclear.
Unfortunately , many of the 1911's and Garands being sold in Germany have been welded up for the Deco market.
One of the more disgusting aspects of this whole import ban situation is that the ROK Zaytun Division did a very good job in the northern part of Iraq . They have since shifted over to A-stan and took their first A-stan KIA last winter.
Glad You Asked.
Circumstantial evidence suggests that the condition would range from worn-out beaters & parts guns to white bag & canned guns that went from US rebuild in the States to US designed warehouses in Korea . Over time , some ( or more likely most ) of the storage facilties were transfered , intact with contents , to save the Americans the cost of maintaining the sites.
The M1 Carbines are all USGI , but some were rebuilt by Howa in Japan . Others were rebuilt by Daewoo in Korea .
The gungrabbers have good reason to panic . Just 3 countries alone : South Korea , Thailand , and the Republic of China/Taiwan , recieved transfer of over 1,170,000 USGI Carbines between 1963 and 1976 . The survival rate of those guns is likely to be high and some guns from all 3 countries have reached the US during the last 25 years.
The gun-grabbers are worried about large numbers of cheap 1911 series pistols returning to the New World as well. The wizards at .gov just noticed that there were 2,500,000 1911's produced and lots of them went to allies in Asia...
Circumstantial evidence suggests that the condition would range from worn-out beaters & parts guns to white bag & canned guns that went from US rebuild in the States to US designed warehouses in Korea . Over time , some ( or more likely most ) of the storage facilties were transfered , intact with contents , to save the Americans the cost of maintaining the sites.
The M1 Carbines are all USGI , but some were rebuilt by Howa in Japan . Others were rebuilt by Daewoo in Korea .
The gungrabbers have good reason to panic . Just 3 countries alone : South Korea , Thailand , and the Republic of China/Taiwan , recieved transfer of over 1,170,000 USGI Carbines between 1963 and 1976 . The survival rate of those guns is likely to be high and some guns from all 3 countries have reached the US during the last 25 years.
The gun-grabbers are worried about large numbers of cheap 1911 series pistols returning to the New World as well. The wizards at .gov just noticed that there were 2,500,000 1911's produced and lots of them went to allies in Asia...
