Kriss Vector wont fire

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Hello,

I have 2 x Kriss Vector .22 SRB's, feeding them both the same ammo (Blazers LR). One functions 100% fine, the odd jam up...

One will not fire at all. It's like the firing pin is not contacting the shell. I stripped both guns, looked at both firing pins, checked clearances (visually). Both pins extend the same amount on the bench. Both pins have good spring travel.

Not sure where to go with this? Any suggestions?

:confused:
 
Mine is hit and miss.
I get light primer strikes, just a click, the problem is worst if I use the charging handle to chamber over the bolt release. There is no rhyme nor reason to it. Clean, dirty, all types of ammo.
Not happy at the quality for what I paid
Just came back from North Sylva, they claim they cleaned it and shot 20 rounds thru it and all is functional according to them.
Back to the range to take video to show North Sylva and Kriss. Kriss directly have been useless in troubleshooting.
 
Mine is hit and miss.
I get light primer strikes, just a click, the problem is worst if I use the charging handle to chamber over the bolt release. There is no rhyme nor reason to it. Clean, dirty, all types of ammo.
Not happy at the quality for what I paid
Just came back from North Sylva, they claim they cleaned it and shot 20 rounds thru it and all is functional according to them.
Back to the range to take video to show North Sylva and Kriss. Kriss directly have been useless in troubleshooting.

I am trying to register my Vector.... cant since im in Canada. Have you tried warranty?
 
I am trying to register my Vector.... cant since im in Canada. Have you tried warranty?

North Sylva looks after Kriss warranty in Canada. They had my gun for 4 months and sent it back telling me it was fully functional.
Not sure where to go from here except get some video of the problem and take it up with NS and will try Kriss directly again.
I complained to the Kriss rep at Taccom last fall, how I got the rifle looked at by NS as I was just over the 1 year warranty. Rep said my gun is the first he's heard of problems.
 
Suggestion 1.
Put a snapcap in, send the bolt forward.
Use the LCI: rotate the charge handle to 90 degrees (don't pull back, just rotate).
Compare tolerances between your 2 rifles. Does the bolt move back to the same place using the LCI?
Become familiar with this entire mechanism - notice how it is possible to have the charging handle forward while out of battery. Is this occurring unintentionally?

Suggestion 2.
Lock the bolt back. Flip onto side (ejection port up).
Slowly rotate the charge handle and feel for resistence.
Slowly slide the charge handle back and look for burring on the inside. Look for metal wear. Is that inside rail lubricated well?
Fully pull back the handle. Look inside the hollow above the chamber (that houses the slide rail when handle forward). Is it clean and free of debris?

Suggestion 3.
Remove upper. Release hammer.
Is travel unimpeded, spring lightly oiled?
 
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Geeez , and I was thinking of getting one of these. But my Marlin-60 and 2x Sav-64s don't have issues like this . . . for half or a third the cost.
 
Geeez , and I was thinking of getting one of these. But my Marlin-60 and 2x Sav-64s don't have issues like this . . . for half or a third the cost.

Same could be said of most things? Just because our "Model X" is reliable doesn't mean ALL are. And just because the sticker price is a third doesn't mean the total cost is.

Reliability is whether we can fix our own problems. The Vector is a unique design so the problem-to-fix ratio tends to be skewed. The merit of buying one is whether the unique design appeals - I'd recommend shooting a SBR Vector before deciding because the low-bore-inline-trigger is intuitive to aim and a lot of fun. In short, if you were thinking of buying one don't let a survey size of 2 - in a problem related thread - put you off!
 
I bought some different ammo. Gonna give that try. Maybe switch bolts out between both guns and see what happens. Going out tomorrow.

I've done a fair bit of searching on this problem with the .22 version. Have heard many are corrected with replacement of the bolt.
Please report what you find.
 
Range report:

Tried Federal .22LR , the blue value pack. Loaded the gun with charge handle. No fire.

Removed mag, pulled charge handle back and locked open the action. Loaded magazine and released action. Gun never missed a beat.

Running the charge handle to load the chamber is the issue. Not sure how to rectify that??
 
Range report:

Tried Federal .22LR , the blue value pack. Loaded the gun with charge handle. No fire.

Removed mag, pulled charge handle back and locked open the action. Loaded magazine and released action. Gun never missed a beat.

Running the charge handle to load the chamber is the issue. Not sure how to rectify that??

That's mine but.....I still get some clicks even with bolt release.
 
I suspect week spring... I once left my Kriss stored with bolt locked back. Click click click. Took spring out, stretched it and it improved. Also the gun squeeky clean seems to function better, takes about 50 rnds and good luck,
 
As explained on Page 6 of the manual:

NOTE: Always load the KRISS Vector .22LR with the bolt open.

1. Pull the charging handle back and press the bolt catch to lock the bolt open.
2. Place the magazine into the magazine well with the bullet head facing forward. Tap the magazine to ensure that it is securely in position and seated properly.
3. Release bolt to chamber a round.

The reason why is because of the LCI and non-reciprocating handle - any interference on the charge handle return can cause it to jar into the LCI pivot notch. Any dirt in that housing or lack of lube on the handle rail increases those odds. You can simulate it by taking out the bolt, then do a slow manual release with the charge handle tucked forward.

Yes clean and wet for this one.
 
As explained on Page 6 of the manual:

NOTE: Always load the KRISS Vector .22LR with the bolt open.

1. Pull the charging handle back and press the bolt catch to lock the bolt open.
2. Place the magazine into the magazine well with the bullet head facing forward. Tap the magazine to ensure that it is securely in position and seated properly.
3. Release bolt to chamber a round.

The reason why is because of the LCI and non-reciprocating handle - any interference on the charge handle return can cause it to jar into the LCI pivot notch. Any dirt in that housing or lack of lube on the handle rail increases those odds. You can simulate it by taking out the bolt, then do a slow manual release with the charge handle tucked forward.

Yes clean and wet for this one.


True..... always help to read the manual....
 
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