LaFrance M14K

"Ron Smith (Smith Enterprise, Inc.) built the systems originally sold by Tim LaFrance."

I am on the waiting list if SEI decides to make the K gun again. I'm not holding my breath though...

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cantom said:
Not that we'll ever see them here, but how costly was a semi version of the M14K?
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The old ones are rare collector items and I think one sold on Gun Broker about two years ago (pre-Obama) for something like $6K.


I think SEI is waiting until the have their own bolts and receivers on the market before the K gun goes back into production.

Also...

My conversations with Ron Smith have revealed that SAGE is working on an EBR stock for the K gun.
The EBRK stock is on the back burner because SAGE is working hard to keep up with the demand TACOM-RI has put on them.
 
garandguy10 said:
The advantage of this rifle over a semi auto standard or bush length rifle is what???
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Per the website above:


LaFRANCE SPECIALTIES (TIM LaFRANCE OF SAN DEIGO CA) M14k WITH A SINGLE DIGIT SERIAL NUMBER! SEMI AUTO 7.62mm RIFLE... THIS IS AN EXTREMELY RARE M14k BUILT BY La FRANCE SPECIALTIES ON A ARMSCORP RECEIVER..... THE LaFRANCE M14k IS KNOWN FOR ITS COMPACT SIZE, HEAVY FIRE POWER WITH LITTLE NOTICEABLE RECOIL FOR AN M14 TYPE FIREARM .... HAS A COMPLETELY REVAMPED GAS SYSTEM ON IT..... THE SYSTEM IS OFF OF A M60 BELT FED MACHINE GUN AND TAKES THIS LITTLE POWER HOUSE AND REDUCES RECOIL DRAMATICALLY..... THOSE THAT KNOW ABOUT TIM LaFRANCE AND HIS WORK ON THE M14K KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND HOW RARE AND FINE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THIS M14k IS.... YOU CAN FIND INFO ABOUT THIS RARE GUN WITH A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH -- WE KNOW OF NO OTHER AVAILABLE FOR SALE AT THIS TIME AND HAVE ONLY EVER HAD ONE SIMILAR FIREARM TO OFFER OF THIS TYPE..... EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS GUN IS SPECIAL!! HAS AN AWESOME LOOKING K TYPE SHORTED GI TYPE STOCK - CUSTOM MADE FROM TIGER TYPE WOOD WITH FANTASTIC GRAINED WOOD AND CUSTOM MADE MATCHING "K" LENGTH HANDGUARD..... ALSO FITTED WITH A.R.M.S. PICATINNY RAIL TOP GRADE SCOPE MOUNTING SYSTEM.... THE LEGAL LENGTH 16" OVERALL BARREL LENGTH (WITH ATTACHED FLASH HIDER) SPECIAL OP ROD, HANDGUARD AND CUSTOM LAFRANCE GAS SYSTEM... IF YOU ARE IN THE MARKET FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL AND EXTREMLY RARE THEN THIS LITTLE M14k IS IT..... NOT TO BE UP GRADED ANYWHERE AND NOT TO BE FOUND IN ANY MILTARY WEAPONS COLLECTION ANYWHERE.... THIS COULD BE THE HIGHLIGHT OF ANY COMBAT WEAPONS COLLECTION....COMES FROM THE COLLECTION OF AN ARIZONA PHYSIAN FRIEND OF OURS, WHO HAS SOLD HIS COLLECTION TO US BIT BY BIT OVER THE YEARS AND THIS WAS THE LAST OF HIS GUNS.... COMPLETE WITH 20 ROUND USGI MAG.... THIS GUN IS A SITE TO BEHOLD AND SOMETHING TO HANDLE AND SHOULDER.... DONT LET THIS BABY PASS YOU BY. EMAIL FOR PRICE
 
garandguy10 said:
The advantage of this rifle over a semi auto standard or bush length rifle is what???
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As a semi auto, none other than collector value.

But, originally, they were designed as a full auto. They were engineered to work reliably as a full auto gun. The one in the ad is one of the semi auto ones that were sold to the public in the US.

If they had used the M14 gas system with that shortened barrel, the gun would have pounded itself into junk in short order. The M60 gas cylinder gave it enough mechanical delay to drop the cyclic rate to 650 rpm and between that, the custom brake and a Pachmyr recoil pad, made the gun very controllable and pleasant to fire. A very big improvement over the original M14 military rifle in full auto.

Of course, the short barrel dropped the muzzle velocity to like 2500 fps, quite a drop in range and energy as a tradeoff...

Such guns a Canadian can only dream about...:(
 
Lazerus- I suspect that someone agreed with you, thus the rarity of the M14K. ;)


Lazerus2000 said:
OK,
this is a very neat firearm,
a wonderful exercise in ingenuity and skill,
to show how small an M14 can get.
but,
What exactly is the tactical role for this weapon?
What is the muzzle velocity of 7.62 NATO ammunition fired out of a 16" or shorter barrel?

Once you get below approximately 18" with full powered 7.62 NATO/.308 Win ammo, the point of diminishing returns is quickly reached, with muzzle blast and flash going up, and ballistic efficiency going down.

If you want a firearm that hits like a Ruger Mini 30 ...
why not just get the lighter, more compact, handier, lighter recoiling Mini 30?

Or better yet, for maximum ballistic efficiency, keep a full length barrel on your full powered M14, and if you need a shorter, more compact delivery platform, go to a bullpup stock.

These opinions are coming from a guy who has a tremendous respect for M14 short rifles, and who has chopped up dozens of M14 rifles into 18.5" Shorties. At that length, in a wood or fiberglass stock, a shorty M14 will balance superbly. Even better, with a pistol grip folding stock, the M14 shorty becomes, IMHO, the perfect all around rifle.

as usual,
opinions expressed on the internet may be worth less than you paid for them,
and
YPMMV!
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