Laugo Arms Alien Pistol

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I was at my local range today, and a gent a couple lanes down was shooting some really fast, accurate, small double tap groups. Like, really good. So I had to ask....and he was shooting an Alien Pistol, which I had never even heard off. He stripped it and showed me the fixed, low bore axis barrel and recoil mechanism, and internals...and then let me shoot a mag with the iron sights, rather than red dot.

Wow. What an amazing gun, I was so impressed! Had a very different, and light recoil, and I shot better than I had any right to with a gun I'd just picked up. Really well built, trigger is great (though I think my P226 X5 L1 is better) and the grips and grip angle are perfect.....anyway, now I want one! But holy bitcoin's Batman, are they expensive too!!

I don't see any identifiers or serial # on it so think it should be ok to post pic....but why do my pics always get rotated 90 degrees??

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A totally over-rated, expensive pistol. IMHO.
Glock pistols have a low bore axis too at a fraction of the cost. And parts, triggers, barrels & slides are more available & cheaper.
Fire a squib in the barrel or one after the squib & the barrel is toast. The frame pinned barrel must be sent back for service replacement by the factory only. What’s a barrel replacement cost? Who freakin knows....
Im not trashing this unique design much like the incredible H&K P7, but gas operated, or gas delayed blowback autos in 9mm are generally over-engineered, expensive to manufacture, and most competitors employ JMB’s superior design.
 
Well, I agree that at the end of the day, it is just a 9mm auto, and agree that it is way overpriced.....but it is orders of magnitude better than any Glock I have shot. First, the trigger is so much superior, and the fit, finish, ergonomics and shooting are as well. That does not mean I would pay the premium that is being asked. But if it was 3 x the price of a glock, instead of 7 or 8x the price....I would buy one all day long instead of a Glock.

When they get over themselves, and their exclusivity, and the price comes down into the $2000-2500 range for a package, I'm in. Certainly not before. As it is, I still prefer my Sig P226 X5 L1, and by a big margin, and for half the price.
 
hatman1793 said:
A totally over-rated, expensive pistol. IMHO.
Glock pistols have a low bore axis too at a fraction of the cost. And parts, triggers, barrels & slides are more available & cheaper.
Fire a squib in the barrel or one after the squib & the barrel is toast. The frame pinned barrel must be sent back for service replacement by the factory only. What’s a barrel replacement cost? Who freakin knows....
Im not trashing this unique design much like the incredible H&K P7, but gas operated, or gas delayed blowback autos in 9mm are generally over-engineered, expensive to manufacture, and most competitors employ JMB’s superior design.
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So ummm have you actually shot one? Or is this an armchair analyses on paper?
 
Keep in mind also the Alien is originally intended as a high-end competition pistol, it's competitors are STI, Tangfolio, Mastershop, etc. In this competition the pricing is within the same brackets
 
Tactical Imports said:
Keep in mind also the Alien is originally intended as a high-end competition pistol, it's competitors are STI, Tangfolio, Mastershop, etc. In this competition the pricing is within the same brackets
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I wouldn't say it's quite the same. Base price maybe, but a kitted out Alien is like adding options on a Porsche....gets really expensive fast. Keep in mind, I'm a fan, I really loved the way it shot, quite unique to say the least and I'm sure it would be a great gun to compete with. But the price point to me still isn't justified, and I am not a piker when it comes to spending on nice pistols and revolvers. But I'm just not seeing the price point for the product, sorry. It's unique, it's good, but the fit and finish, while good, don't approach old Sig Mastershop X5 stuff, or a Sphinx AT2000S. And I own, or have owned those, and multiple old Colt Pythons, and other goodies.

Unique and perhaps 'revolutionary' is nice, but end of the day it's a 9mm auto that is produced the same as others, and the price doesn't reflect that to me. The materials, methods, tolerances and so forth can be duplicated for considerably less money, barring the proprietary part. Wait for it, the Chinese will do it....maybe after the virus business is over.
 
4n2t0 said:
You're not seeing the price point today but two days ago...
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Yeah, I did say that but was only half arsed serious. Really, the Alien is a fantastic platform, and I love the functionality and form. I think this is possibly the next 1911, Glock, whatever ground breaker you want to compare it too. It is innovative and thinking outside the box at its finest. But basically it does what a lot of other fine guns do, which is put holes in paper in a satisfying way. I would love to have one. But damn, that's a lot of money.
 
Twisted Canuck said:
Yeah, I did say that but was only half arsed serious. Really, the Alien is a fantastic platform, and I love the functionality and form. I think this is possibly the next 1911, Glock, whatever ground breaker you want to compare it too. It is innovative and thinking outside the box at its finest. But basically it does what a lot of other fine guns do, which is put holes in paper in a satisfying way. I would love to have one. But damn, that's a lot of money.
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Innovation...

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4n2t0 said:
Innovation...

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Haha, well played. Yes, what's old is new. Sometimes it is the execution that makes the difference. And sometimes the execution is more cosmetic and marketing than reality.

But, the Alien is still a very nicely executed firearm, and lovely to shoot. Different price point, and I'd be all over one. But still like my Sig X5 much better.
 
hatman1793 said:
A totally over-rated, expensive pistol. IMHO.
Glock pistols have a low bore axis too at a fraction of the cost. And parts, triggers, barrels & slides are more available & cheaper.
Fire a squib in the barrel or one after the squib & the barrel is toast. The frame pinned barrel must be sent back for service replacement by the factory only. What’s a barrel replacement cost? Who freakin knows....
Im not trashing this unique design much like the incredible H&K P7, but gas operated, or gas delayed blowback autos in 9mm are generally over-engineered, expensive to manufacture, and most competitors employ JMB’s superior design.
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There speaks someone who really doesn't know what high quality precision firearms are about. To compare something like the Alien to a Glock is like comparing apples with caviar. If you like apples and don't like caviar, great but please don't put down firearms like this because you don't like the concept. Personally I own a Pardini. Similar class of firearms and while the Alien is more expensive it is not out to lunch in that company. I will put my Pardini up against any Glock in the world for pure accuracy and ease of shooting accurately. I suspect that the Alien is similar. Nothing wrong with a Glock, they do exactly what they are designed to do, a good firearm but a high end hand crafted firearm they are not.
 
If you can't afford it, don't knock the price. After shooting 4 versions of the Alien I can tell you it is outstanding. I'd love to have one. High-end firearms are expensive. Look at Sig Classic X5's, easily the same price or more than the Alien.
Telling a company what they should charge or what you think you should pay is ridiculous. Either you can afford this advanced cutting edge custom designed gun or you can't. Maybe some day with increased popularity the price will come down a bit.
Until then too bad if you can't afford it.

Rich
 
Rich LPS said:
If you can't afford it, don't knock the price. After shooting 4 versions of the Alien I can tell you it is outstanding. I'd love to have one. High-end firearms are expensive. Look at Sig Classic X5's, easily the same price or more than the Alien.
Telling a company what they should charge or what you think you should pay is ridiculous. Either you can afford this advanced cutting edge custom designed gun or you can't. Maybe some day with increased popularity the price will come down a bit.
Until then too bad if you can't afford it.

Rich
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I certainly don't knock it, I think it's excellent, and I certainly could afford it. But in reality, my Sig X5 L1, an early beautiful gun, with 4 mags, cost me about half what the Alien would with 4 mags. The Alien is well made and great quality, and I appreciate that in any firearm, and why I have collected many classic old Colt and S&W revolvers and autos. If it was around $3K, instead of closer to $6k with optics and extra mags and taxes....I'd get one. Not for six though.

That isn't trying to dictate a price to anyone, they can charge what they like, and those that see the value in it should buy it. I'm just an avid gun person with some experience with very fine firearms, and that's my opinion.

I'm sure there are many who wouldn't pay what I have for some of my Pythons and Anaconda, and dont see them as having the value. Consumers have the freedom to buy or not buy according to their tastes and their own sense of value. I'm fine with that.
 
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