Lead bullet tips deforming

scott_r

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Im using some cheap lead points in my 270 wsm and notice when I eject a shell thats not been fired the lead tip is deformed from feeding. Is this a real problem? I just bought the rifle less then a month ago and am wondering if I should return it or load up shells with a polymer tip?

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I used to have that happen with a 300 win mag,when you fired the one in the chamber the recoil deformed the ones in the mag.The cure was polymer or protected points.
 
I did a test a long time ago with a 270 and factory 130g Winchester Power points. I had a bunch of deformed-flattened tips from the previous year of hunting and shot them out to 300 yards. There was no real difference between them and new pointy ones.

I did have a box of Hornady Interbonds and some had loose plastic tips (these were bought when the Interbond fist came out) at 100 yards they did shoot worse than the ones with good tips from the same box. It may have been the lose tips but I think it probably had more to do with poorly drawn jackets which in turn caused the loose tips.
 
The ones Im having issue with arent really flattened out rather bent to one side due to the staggered feeding. As the bullet gets chambered it rubs against the ramp?? or something and really messes up the tips on my shells. The shells are loaded up to exact OAL. I shouldnt have to buy poly tipped bullets for it to function properly and am thinking of taking the rifle back to Wholesale Sports and hopefully get a refund.
I could see this being a problem on an older or used firearm and would take it to a smith but Ive had the gun less then a month.

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Those deformed tips will not cause you any trouble at all. By the time that the bullet reaches the target, that tip has been shed due to wind drag.
 
Deformed exposed lead tips on bullets have absolutely ZERO effect on anything. The poster who mentioned that they are gone by the time they reach the target is correct. If you recover bullets from soft snow after they are spent, you will find they have no exposed tip, and the lead is "splashed" back on the front of the jacket as a very thin layer. Many years ago, we used to shoot 1000 yard competition on a large frozen lake. After the weekend, we would go down the ice and pick up bullets that were spent and lying on the surface of the lake. These bullets looked like unfired bullets with two exceptions: they had rifling grooves in them, and any pointed soft point bullets were lacking the exposed tip. These bullets always showed a "wash" of lead on the ogive part of the bullet, leading us to the conclusion that this lead tip actually was hot enough to wash back on the jacket and adhere to it during flight. In any case, deformed tips at the time of firing do not affect accuracy in any way. Groups from single-loaded ammo with perfect tips shot groups that were no better than ammo with distorted or even partially missing lead tips. A lot more important for accuracy is the "heel" of a bullet. Any deformation at that point will affect accuracy. Regards, Eagleye.
 
I agree...I used to shoot a lot of Nosler Partions out of a few of my rifles, and had a few that had been dropped and were SEVERELY misaligned, so I refused to hunt with them.

One day at my range I was shooting an 8" steel plate at 500yds and when I was finished I shot the few crooked ones down range....100% hits!

I fret deformed tips no longer...although these days I shoot mostly the TSX.
 
Deformed exposed lead tips on bullets have absolutely ZERO effect on anything. The poster who mentioned that they are gone by the time they reach the target is correct. If you recover bullets from soft snow after they are spent, you will find they have no exposed tip, and the lead is "splashed" back on the front of the jacket as a very thin layer. Many years ago, we used to shoot 1000 yard competition on a large frozen lake. After the weekend, we would go down the ice and pick up bullets that were spent and lying on the surface of the lake. These bullets looked like unfired bullets with two exceptions: they had rifling grooves in them, and any pointed soft point bullets were lacking the exposed tip. These bullets always showed a "wash" of lead on the ogive part of the bullet, leading us to the conclusion that this lead tip actually was hot enough to wash back on the jacket and adhere to it during flight. In any case, deformed tips at the time of firing do not affect accuracy in any way. Groups from single-loaded ammo with perfect tips shot groups that were no better than ammo with distorted or even partially missing lead tips. A lot more important for accuracy is the "heel" of a bullet. Any deformation at that point will affect accuracy. Regards, Eagleye.

There you go, I didn't know that. I learned something today. Thank-you. :)

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Deformed exposed lead tips on bullets have absolutely ZERO effect on anything. The poster who mentioned that they are gone by the time they reach the target is correct. If you recover bullets from soft snow after they are spent, you will find they have no exposed tip, and the lead is "splashed" back on the front of the jacket as a very thin layer. Many years ago, we used to shoot 1000 yard competition on a large frozen lake. After the weekend, we would go down the ice and pick up bullets that were spent and lying on the surface of the lake. These bullets looked like unfired bullets with two exceptions: they had rifling grooves in them, and any pointed soft point bullets were lacking the exposed tip. These bullets always showed a "wash" of lead on the ogive part of the bullet, leading us to the conclusion that this lead tip actually was hot enough to wash back on the jacket and adhere to it during flight. In any case, deformed tips at the time of firing do not affect accuracy in any way. Groups from single-loaded ammo with perfect tips shot groups that were no better than ammo with distorted or even partially missing lead tips. A lot more important for accuracy is the "heel" of a bullet. Any deformation at that point will affect accuracy. Regards, Eagleye.

That's exactly the same reason cast bullets that are deformed on the base don't seem to fly as good as a gas checked one.
 
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