Learning a DAO pull and competition?

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Hey guys, I'm looking at a pretty good deal for a DAK 9mm P226. Is it worth buying for competition use or am I putting myself at a significant disadvantage learning a DAO trigger and pull?
 
Disadvantage - probably

However, it will make you a better shooter.

Trigger control is arguably the most important skill in shooting and operating a DAO pistol will force you to have better trigger control.

If competition is your main use of your pistol, i would get something else.

CZ Shadow or a striker fired pistol is what i would recommend.
 
For competition, it sure will be a significant disadvantage. However, the choice really all comes down to your reasoning for want to get a DAK P226??

If you want a competition gun with good price, like fozzybear said, CZ Shadow will be a better choice, its is the best bang for the buck for a competition production gun.
 
I have one DAO pistol, a Ruger P89. The trigger pull is significant. It takes some getting used to but I find it predictable. A 1911 trigger pull, especially if the trigger has been worked on, is a dream. If your a police officer and could use the gun in a gun fight the DAO is a good thing, otherwise not so much.
 
Disadvantage - probably

However, it will make you a better shooter.

Trigger control is arguably the most important skill in shooting and operating a DAO pistol will force you to have better trigger control.

If competition is your main use of your pistol, i would get something else.

CZ Shadow or a striker fired pistol is what i would recommend.

Haven't yet found a striker-fired pistol I like. I know all about the CZ and I can get good groups with it and it feels okay in my hands but nothing special. The Beretta 92A1 and the 226 are the only guns I've handled and have felt perfect.

I have heard that "it will make (me) a better shooter" before, why is that?

For competition, it sure will be a significant disadvantage. However, the choice really all comes down to your reasoning for want to get a DAK P226??

If you want a competition gun with good price, like fozzybear said, CZ Shadow will be a better choice, its is the best bang for the buck for a competition production gun.

Reasoning is I want something as close to a "duty" pistol as possible. Just a personal choice and the price is very attractive.

Thanks for the responses guys, still sitting on the fence though :s
 
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I have heard that "it will make (me) a better shooter" before, why is that?

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Because your accuracy will be terrible due to the heavy trigger pull and you will have to put considerable effort into skill to compensate for the shortfalls of the gun. Doing so will strengthen your hand and force you to improve your procedure, and thus will give you much better control when you ditch your DAO and get a proper DA/SA or SA gun.
 
Have you ever shot a DAO pistol? IMO it's terrible... I imagine that the only positive thing about them is to have more control in a stressful scenario where you may accidentally shoot someone. I've personally only shot a 5946 (I own a 5906 so I'm accustomed to a quick trigger pull)... I've heard it's a heavy pull for a DOA, so maybe I need to try a more modern DAO...

I think law enforcement use them for that reason. If someone is getting cuffed and an officer is supporting, you don't want to accidentally discharge. The 5946 I shot was an RCMP issued pistol. It was painful to shoot... I couldn't even imaging using it for a speed shooting competition without some major trigger work...
 
Issue police DA pistols have really heavy triggers. I've gotten to try a couple and it would be a serious finger workout for a day of shooting. So if the DAK is a service/LEO style trigger pull then it most certainly will be a disadvantage. Especially as the day goes on. But not too bad if it's not a really high round count sort of day.

If you want to learn to shoot a DA gun well then go for a S&W revolver and simply don't do the Wolff spring kit swap out. And you get to work with a DA trigger in a division where everyone has to use roughly the same sort of trigger.
 
Have a hankering for a sig p-250, da only..... Will get one as funds allow...I want to learn proper trigger control on a platform I already love p-226.... If I don't like it I'll trade on..
 
Ask Jerry Mikulek whether DAO is competitive. As long as the trigger is smooth and consistent you're good. It will take more practice to be able to compete vs single actions but for sure it's doable.
 
Hey guys, I'm looking at a pretty good deal for a DAK 9mm P226. Is it worth buying for competition use or am I putting myself at a significant disadvantage learning a DAO trigger and pull?

Depends on the amount of time you are willing to put in to learn the trigger.

Like enefgee pointed out, there are people who can run DAO's like a beast, but they are few and far between and the amount of trigger time on that system needs to be significant and continuous, especially if you plan to compete.

If you are a casual shooter who can't or won't put in the time, don't buy it. You would be better served with a TDA or striker fired pistol.
 
I really don't mind the double action pull on my Sigs. I often find the surprise of the long pull lets me focus on the sights more easily. I have considered getting a DAK to see if I like it.
 
Roddy, instead of a DAK look at buying a S&W revolver. You'll get a PROPER DA pull as well as expanding your handgun horizons.

Of course I suggest this in my role of the perfect drug pusher. Once you try ONE revolver you'll more than likely find yourself hooked in and soon you'll have a bigger inventory of great revolvers than semi autos.... :D
 
Roddy, instead of a DAK look at buying a S&W revolver. You'll get a PROPER DA pull as well as expanding your handgun horizons.

Of course I suggest this in my role of the perfect drug pusher. Once you try ONE revolver you'll more than likely find yourself hooked in and soon you'll have a bigger inventory of great revolvers than semi autos.... :D

Well because I already have a Smith and Wesson revolver. I have three revolvers so they dont have my auto collection beat yet. :)

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I have used it for competitions and I really like it, more than my Python actually. I just love Sigs and would like to try a DAK or DAO version.
 
Ask Jerry Mikulek whether DAO is competitive. As long as the trigger is smooth and consistent you're good. It will take more practice to be able to compete vs single actions but for sure it's doable.

Exactly. The DAK trigger is nice. Practice makes perfect with any trigger. With a lighter hammer spring and some polishing I had my DAK down to 5 pounds and never had any light strikes.
 
You guys are confusing DAO triggers with police-issue triggers. DAOs don't have to be that heavy.

Police-issue Glocks are routinely sold with 13 pound trigger pulls. The agencies want them that heavy, for liability reasons.

Plenty of guys can shoot VERY fast with double-action revolvers. What makes you think a double-action auto can't be shot just a quickly?
 
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