LeBaron: problem with boresight

[whitbyman]

I hope someone can help me.

I purchased a Remington 700 VLS from a member of gunnuts, it came with two piece Leupold mounts.
I bought a Bushnell 3200 scope and Leupold rings from LeBaron in Markham. I then paid good $$$ for them to mount AND boresight the scope.

When I took the rifle to the range I could not hit a thing at 100 yards, wasted a few rounds trying. I switched to 50 yards. Bullets were hitting very low and left of centre, the grouping was excellent but I would expect that at 50 yards. I tried to adjust the scope onto target and surprise ran out of adjustment on my scope. I had a fellow at the range try to borsite the rifle and it appears that it was way off. Now I was pissed!

From what I can figure LeBaron took my money but did not do the job. I also wasted money on the 407 (pay highway in Ontario) and ammo that went nowhere.

Before I go complain I would like some input from more experienced members here. Please let me know what you think.

 

[2katz]

When you bore sight a rifle, only windage should be reletively bang on. Elevation is almost always off. It depends on the ring hight; the closer the scope is to the bore axis the closer the elevation adjustment would be. Bore sighting the rifle should only get you reletively close onto the paper.

As far as running out of adjustment; on the assumption that the scope is not defective, there may be a problem with the rings. The front and rear rings may not be in the same axis. There is a tool that they use to check for that. I some how don't think they used that tool, I would even think they don't even have it.

 

[guntech]

Borsighters can be way off. I have seen them off as much as 3 feet. It is important the person doing the boresighting knows where to adjust the scope on the bore sighters grid. That only happens when they use a sighted in rifle to calibrate the bore sighter. If the boresighter uses different spuds, this needs to be done for each spud.

The easiest way to bore sight a bolt action rifle is at the range with the rifle on sandbags... look through the bore at a target and adjusting the scope to the center of the target.

Your experience I think is very common with most "gun stores" who do not have an actual "gunsmith" on hand.

If you have the Leupold adjustable rear base it is designed to adjust your windage problem. You can easily center the scope adjustment.

 

[dan belisle]

And just for the record, once you know where the bore sighter is in relation to a sighted in rifle, most of them are adjustable. then you test a second time to verify, of course. - dan

 

[Hitzy]

Your experience I think is very common with most "gun stores" who do not have an actual "gunsmith" on hand

I wouldn't trust Lebarons staff to change a lightbulb for me, let alone work on a rifle. They are sales staff, paid slightly over minimum wage. You would probably have better results taking your rifle to McDonalds to get the scope put on........

 

[Rob]

I'm old school...I put the rifle on sandbags.,..take the bolt out and look down the barrel to align bore and then the reticle on target...I can usually get within a few inches of center before I start shooting (depending on the type of target)..once you get used to this process it works well....I have seen bore sighters so badly made that there was no way they could work properly...that one from BSA was a real piece of crap...I had one, tried it once and then took it back for a refund...and now there are the lasers....it all seems a waste of money when the viewing down the bore technique works just as well...of course it only works on bolt actions and single shots that will allow a full view down the bore.