Lee .308 Winchester Dies... Hand loads not chambering in my 700
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Not lubricating the inside of the neck can easily cause the problem the OP has. I am not saying it is the problem in the case at hand, because he seems reluctant to turn the die down enough.
But, I have more than once had the dry inside neck cause the sized case, without loading it, not go into the rifle chamber.
The case is sized, so it should go into the chamber, but if the neck is dry and the inside sizer takes considerable power to pull it through the neck, often accompanied by a squeaking noise, it can, and often does, pull the shoulder a bit forward, as the sizer comes through the neck, thus preventing the case from chambering.
I have Lee, RCBS, Lyman, and Hornady. All the die instructions all say same thing to set up the resizing die to do your cases. raise ram with proper shell holder for cartridge, Turn die in till it hits shell holder, lower ram turn die in a 1/4 to 1/2 turn more. Why do we have so many people asking why won't my cartridge chamber. The only cases where this might not apply is belted cases. as they depending on the gun may swell just above the belt and some dies will not size them enough for some rifles to chamber with out hard bolt turning.
There is a tool for that or maybe in this case grinding the shell holder might help.
mind you I am not above having a brain fart from time to time we all do.
There is a tool for that or maybe in this case grinding the shell holder might help.
mind you I am not above having a brain fart from time to time we all do.
Many people use there FL dies to just bump the shoulders brass consistency, neck tension, number of firings, brand of brass, all these things and many more come onto play, you say you marked the neck with sharpee and the cases that would not chamber were marked below the neck and we're not touching the shoulder so to me it sounds like you need to try more lubrication in the neck. Pick one type of brass or prepare to bump your shoulders to the most springy (not sure how to desciribe) of the bunch, also you could just listen to the sheep.
Without lubing the inside of the case neck it is possible to pull the case shoulder forward making the case longer in cartridge headspace. This is more prevalent with new and just annealed cases that have softer shoulders.
Below is a RCBS expander that has not been polished and it will grip a dry case neck like a Uniroyal Tiger Paw Tire. (They "grip" the road) What is even worse is a brand new Redding oblong expander that has three times the surface area.
I polish my expanders and lube the inside of my case necks with dry powdered graphite and I have also have been buying carbide expanders. This "case stretching" problem is worse if you wet tumble with stainless steel media and the inside of the case neck is stripped of its carbon buildup. This is where dipping your case necks in powdered graphite a crystalline form of carbon to make your case necks slick again.
So remember Suputin it took "balls" to post this answer.
Turn in the sizer a full rev so that the die hits the shell holder hard and stops. This will full size that case and it should chamber.
Post #4 by yomomma
Post # 18 by Cummins
Post # 23 by H4831
Post # 20 with Suputin telling Cummins he might as well eat apples before sizing the cases, meaning he doesn't understand why anyone would lube the inside of the case neck.
Therefore H4831 you owe yomomma and Cummins a cup of coffee for double copyright infringement and you also should PM Suputin and further explain the benefits of lubing case necks.
P.S. My real last name is Horton and I'm a American, but some of our Horton clan moved to Canada after our Revolutionary War and stayed loyal to the King. So if you need a cup of coffee just drop in one of the many Tim Horton's in Canada and tell them bigedp51 said you could have a free cup of coffee.
P.P.S. And we won't even talk about how many posters said to screw the die in further. Besides my postings have nice pictures and illustrations for the dyslexic members of the forum. And H4831 your the type of person who would gripe if they hung you with a new rope. Bazinga
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Well thank you very much, Big Ed.
I printed that section of your post out, took it to the local Timmies and the manager gladly obliged. He said that was too good not to accommodate.
Thanks again, I really enjoyed the fresh Tim Horton's coffee.
Bruce
I printed that section of your post out, took it to the local Timmies and the manager gladly obliged. He said that was too good not to accommodate.
Thanks again, I really enjoyed the fresh Tim Horton's coffee.
Bruce
