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Just picked up a 1942 No4 Mk1, 4 digit serial #14xx, matching numbers on bolt, barrel and receiver. Bolt and receiver also stamped FPM possibly FDM. Nothin on left receiver wall except No4 Mk1. Barrel has been cut behind bayonet lugs.
Left butt socket stamped M 1942 above FPM above serial #
Right butt socket stamped FD
Barrel knox is stamped 307
3313 stamped on bottom of barrel under chamber
Can anyone tell me what the FPM/FDMand FD means?
Thanks in advance




 
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Is it stamped FPM or FMP? You mention both markings.

If FMP it may be Federation of Malaysian Police, I know nothing about these rifles or their existence, but a quick google turns up some posts on Milsurps.com and other sits that would be worth looking at.
 
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IronCanadian said:
Is it stamped FPM or FMP? You mention both markings.

If FMP it may be Federation of Malaysian Police, I know nothing about these rifles or their existence, but a quick google turns up some posts on Milsurps.com and other sits taht would be worth looking at.
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I think that stamp might actually be FDM. Are the letters also stamped on the bolt and barrel or do they only exist on the receiver?

M certainly would indicate Maltby.

Sorry I can't be more helpfull, hopefully smellie will be along he's a walking talking Enfiled encyclopedia.
 
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This gun also has a strange looking add on front sight ramp that covers the original sight base and is held in place by the sight blade. One section of the barrel as shown in the pictures , is turned down a little smaller than the rest, I can`t imagine why
 
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jimmy1234 said:
for now i just hope you are not drilling the receiver (ref last pic) lol :D
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It was already drilled when I got it, looks like someone started to drill for scope mounts but the hole in the charger bridge is too close the edge and it looks like they gave up on it because none of the holes are threaded. The M to the left of 1942 looks more like a IYI
 
You have a 1942 "M" Maltby MK1. It's be sporterized and re serialized. also drilled and tapped...looks like a factory conversion for a Parker Hale BA20 scope base. How's the bore...generally these factor refub's are great like hunting rifles especially scoped.

Ron
 
Your second last picture shows "DP" (drill purpose) right next to the drilled and tapped holes on the receiver. I would not be firing this rifle until it was thoroughly checked out by a competent, Lee-Enfield experienced 'smith. And maybe not even then.
Are there any other parts marked DP?
 
Only my assumption that the holes were tapped. It marked "DP" in this area. Do the holes penetrate into the barrel? If not they can easily be repaired...ie plugged? and or threaded if alignment can be corrected. Ron
 
No, I can`t find DP stamped anywhere else, The scope mount holes look like they are not all that old, they are not tapped and each one is too clean to be real old. Whoever drilled them did a poor job because the hole in the charger bridge is too close to the front of the bridge to tap, It is almost out thorough the front of the charger bridge. I can`t see anything else wrong, the bore looks good, headspace is good, can`t find any cracks or excessive wear on the receiver.
The barrel has been cut behind bayonet lugs but muzle and crown looks good.
 
4th picture clearly shows "DP" on the bolt side of the two drilled holes. The "DP" designation is there for a very good reason. Needs some investigation? If the holes are too deep and touch the barrel then you have a concern over chamber pressure safety. That's why folks are cautioning you. Have it checked out. Ron
 
Thanks for all the good answers, I will have it checked but I probably I probably won`t ever fire it anyway. Right now I am really curious about why the barrel has that section turned smaller, it`s not much smaller but enough to notice. Could this be from someone trying to remove bad rust spots?
 
1. A lot of DP rifles were marked DP because they needed drill rifles, no other reason. DP rifles were maintained at a lower level of standard, as only makes sense.

2. When the rifles were converted to civilian-pattern sporters, they had to be re-proofed. This means that the rifle has been proofed twice and passed both times. I really don't think there could be much wrong with it.

3. Note the front-sight ramp. This is a commercial part. This rifle definitely would count as a factory conversion and thus would have been subject to the second proofing before it was allowed to be exported.

4. We still have not "sussed out" that FD marking. My own opinion remains that it could be "factory defence". Your comments, kindly.

Hope this helps.
 
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