Lee Enfield Scope Mount
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cptseawolf
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look for a no 4 sporter. apparently better scope mounts for those as have a square vs rounded reciever.
I have a sporter N1Mk3 and am really enjoying the open sights.
I have a sporter N1Mk3 and am really enjoying the open sights.
The cheapest mount is a Weaver T-01 - its a single rail mount for WW1 or WW2 LE's. Cost is 20$, plus a set of 22 rings (20$) plus drilling and tapping (60$).If you're buying a sporter, you should look for one that is already modified.
gunrunner100
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I have drilled and tapped many Enfields. As has been said, the Weaver TO-1 base and the Weaver TO (Tip-Off) rings are a must. Do not use cheap 22 rings, they will fail miserably. Another thing to think of, is to make sure that the charging bridge is intact on your rifle. If not, the TO-1 base will not work and you may have to go with something else (Williams etc).
Putting a scope on the Enfield is a good idea, but remember, military stocks were not designed to have your cheek off the comb, such as what you will have when scoped. You may need to get an aftermarket rear stock, to raise your cheek.
Food for thought...
Putting a scope on the Enfield is a good idea, but remember, military stocks were not designed to have your cheek off the comb, such as what you will have when scoped. You may need to get an aftermarket rear stock, to raise your cheek.
Food for thought...
Johnn Peterson
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It may not be applicable but recently I picked up a pair of Jungle Carbines/No. 5's. With one in near mint condition and 2nd somewhat lower, I decided to get a couple of mounts that didn't require any 'bubba' modifications. What I ended up with was two sets made by S&K, #1170. I wanted to leave the 'mint' JC as is and mounted a scope on the 2nd, for load testing.
cptseawolf
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Johnn...
nice JC's...lmk if u wanna sell that 2nd one
nice JC's...lmk if u wanna sell that 2nd one
Johnn Peterson
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Johnn...
nice JC's...lmk if u wanna sell that 2nd one
For the amount I shoot it, I was thinking the other day, sell. In addition, I do have the original butt stock with recoil pad as well.
My problem, I hate selling but, rifle, with original butt stock and butt pad, scope and mount set-up, I'll give your interest consideration.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]Bill'd Indestructible Scope Mount[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]This scope mount is made of angle iron and is cheaper and more rigid than any of the commerically made stuff. It does not fit ALL the rifles in 303 British, but it fits a bunch! [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]This is the beautiful part of this mount, it is so simple!!! [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]It is 1"x 1" x 1/8" angle iron (3/16" would be better) and is 5 " long. The metal is available from most local hardware stores (there is a rack with metal angles flats and rounds all 36"long). It's topped with a Weaver flat based mount. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]Construction is simple. Locate two or more spots on the flat side of the receiver that will not interfere with bolt travel. Drill and tap the these holes. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]Cut a piece of angle 5" long and grind a slot to clear the ejector screw. Clamp it in place on the receiver. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]With a small punch "reach" thru the mounting holes and centerpunch the locations on the angle. Drill these holes. Drill and tap the angle to accept the Weaver mount. File,sand and polish all the burrs off and blue the angle!!! Assemble on rifle. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]The bolts to mount it to the reciever are 1/4-28 (because that's what was on hand) but could be 8-40 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif](the same as required for the Weaver mount to save expense of extra tap and drill) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif](the same as required for the Weaver mount to save expense of extra tap and drill) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]The important part is to make sure there is good contact between the angle iron and the barrel/receiver lug area. This takes the recoil energy off of the bolts. There is an area "up front" of the mounting area that is not really flat so I shimmed it in with .001 brass shim stock for a perfectly flat fit. I did a couple more in a hurry and did not shim (no complaints)! You could probably use JB Weld or a similar product. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]This one has been in place 29-30 years and is largely responsible for my love of the SMLE. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]http://303british.com/id32.html[/FONT]
I made one of these for my #1 works great, a bud made one with angle aluminum, it's great too.
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,serif]http://303british.com/id32.html[/FONT]
I made one of these for my #1 works great, a bud made one with angle aluminum, it's great too.
Part of the problem here is the word "Enfield".
The Army called them LEE-Enfields o that they would not be confused with other LEE rifles. We should use it so that it doesn't get confused with all the other ENFIELD rifes. Remember, Enfield operated from 1804 to 1988: 184 years. That is a LOT of time and a LOT of different rifles.
So which model are we talking about? So far, nobody has said.
Very well, if you won't tell me what rifle, I can't tell you what mount. I will, however, make suggestions based on the idea that you are starting with an original military rifle which has not been sportered or cut down. I am also assuming that you mean one of the Enfield-designed or Enfield-produced rifles of the period of the two World Wars. Thse all are bolt-action rifles, at least, so we won't worry about Martinis and Sniders and FALs all of which were built at ENFIELD.
Pattern 1914: S&K Insta-Mount.
US Model of 1917: S&K Insta-Mount. These two rifles take the same mount.
Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mark I, I*, I**, I***, III, III* and V , also Rifles Number 1 Mark I, I*, I**, I***, III, III* and V ALL can be fitted with the S&K "Enfield Number 1 Mount", also called their Enfield Mark 3 mount. This mount requires only a very small bit of inletting for the barrel-ring, just forward of the receiver. Takes about half an hour to instal.
Number 4 Rifle Mark 1, 1*, 2, 1/2, 1/3: You have two excellent choices here. You can get the S&K Mark 4 or Number Lee-Enfield mount or you can get the Gairlochian mount which is made by CGN member Gairlochian and costs a THIRD as much as the US product.
ANY of these mounts are rock-solid and may be moved from rifle to rifle with very little fuss and bother. Add to that the fact that you aren't drilling holes in a rifle that you might want to restore, this dropping the Value of your rifle by a dollar for every dollar you spend. THESE mounts ADD to the value of your rifle AND make it more practical in this day of short-sighted hunters who can't see the kill zone on a moose at 40 yards. They are even more practical for those nasty 400-yard shots in the morning mist on the last day of season.
But you don't have to break the bank and you don't have to wreck the rifle. ANY of the S&K series are gonna cost about the same as drilling and tapping the rifle AND they are better because they are SOLID and far less liable to get put out of whack by a random drop or knock. The Gairlochian mount, available for the Number 4 and the Jungle Carbine (they use the same mount) is $35 and represents a VERY considerable saving. And ALL of these preserve your original rifle.
Hope this helps.
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The Army called them LEE-Enfields o that they would not be confused with other LEE rifles. We should use it so that it doesn't get confused with all the other ENFIELD rifes. Remember, Enfield operated from 1804 to 1988: 184 years. That is a LOT of time and a LOT of different rifles.
So which model are we talking about? So far, nobody has said.
Very well, if you won't tell me what rifle, I can't tell you what mount. I will, however, make suggestions based on the idea that you are starting with an original military rifle which has not been sportered or cut down. I am also assuming that you mean one of the Enfield-designed or Enfield-produced rifles of the period of the two World Wars. Thse all are bolt-action rifles, at least, so we won't worry about Martinis and Sniders and FALs all of which were built at ENFIELD.
Pattern 1914: S&K Insta-Mount.
US Model of 1917: S&K Insta-Mount. These two rifles take the same mount.
Short Magazine Lee-Enfield Mark I, I*, I**, I***, III, III* and V , also Rifles Number 1 Mark I, I*, I**, I***, III, III* and V ALL can be fitted with the S&K "Enfield Number 1 Mount", also called their Enfield Mark 3 mount. This mount requires only a very small bit of inletting for the barrel-ring, just forward of the receiver. Takes about half an hour to instal.
Number 4 Rifle Mark 1, 1*, 2, 1/2, 1/3: You have two excellent choices here. You can get the S&K Mark 4 or Number Lee-Enfield mount or you can get the Gairlochian mount which is made by CGN member Gairlochian and costs a THIRD as much as the US product.
ANY of these mounts are rock-solid and may be moved from rifle to rifle with very little fuss and bother. Add to that the fact that you aren't drilling holes in a rifle that you might want to restore, this dropping the Value of your rifle by a dollar for every dollar you spend. THESE mounts ADD to the value of your rifle AND make it more practical in this day of short-sighted hunters who can't see the kill zone on a moose at 40 yards. They are even more practical for those nasty 400-yard shots in the morning mist on the last day of season.
But you don't have to break the bank and you don't have to wreck the rifle. ANY of the S&K series are gonna cost about the same as drilling and tapping the rifle AND they are better because they are SOLID and far less liable to get put out of whack by a random drop or knock. The Gairlochian mount, available for the Number 4 and the Jungle Carbine (they use the same mount) is $35 and represents a VERY considerable saving. And ALL of these preserve your original rifle.
Hope this helps.
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Just started a new thread about this mount in the gunsmithing section.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=520530
We need to know more about any items made in Canada.
Ted
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