Lee Factory Crimp die for 30-06 ????

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Is it true that the precision is better when you crimp the bullets .. I mean I have a 30-06..Bolt action and I'm gonna reload for it.. SO is it better to buy the Lee Factory crimp Die or just Leave it straight.. The bullets I'm gonna use are 168 gr. TSX .. and have no crimpimg canelure

All thanks in advance
 
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The only way to know for sure is to try it with your load in your gun. Some say it improves accuracy, but that's their loads in their guns, yours might be different.
 
The crimp die for this cartridge may level out pressures from cartridge to cartridge. But all things beening equal with the brass you are using and a deburring or bevel on the inside of the case mouth, I don't think you will need to crimp. Keeping your reloading proceedure the same for each cartridge is the key to accuracy once you have found a load your rifle likes. I would think about neck sizing once fired brass through that particular rifle may also add more consistancy to rifle shots. Have Fun!
 
i don't think i would crimp into a tsx. 30 06 is not a stout recoiler. friction will hold it tight enough and there is no point distorting a perfectly good premium bullet.
 
I agree that the jury is out on crimping, as far as the .30-06 in a bolt action goes.

However, further to the above post, I seriously doubt that you'd be able to distort a solid copper bullet with that crimping die. The amount of force required to distort a solid copper bullet would likely be more than the strength of the press.
 
p-17 said:
I agree that the jury is out on crimping, as far as the .30-06 in a bolt action goes.

However, further to the above post, I seriously doubt that you'd be able to distort a solid copper bullet with that crimping die. The amount of force required to distort a solid copper bullet would likely be more than the strength of the press.
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+1 on that
 
When you crimp the TSX, the groove behind forward band can be used as a crimping groove. Seat the bullet until the case mouth is even with the bottom edge of the forward band and crimp there. As stated above, when crimping is done properly, the only bullets that could be deformed are lead core bullets with thin jackets and no cannelure.

Whether or no you will see an improvement in accuracy from crimping depends on how tightly you control other variables in your reloading process. It is generally accepted however that uniform bullet pull has an effect on accuracy. The bench shooter controls this by seating his bullet firmly into the rifling but those of us who load from the magazine seldom have that luxury, so we crimp. I believe crimping should be done as an separate step from seating, and this will add possibly 10 minutes or so per hundred handloads. I invest the extra time because I believe it makes better ammunition, you will have to decide for yourself.
 
I have loaded various bullet types for both a Remington and a tikka in 30-06, I have found that the crimp die makes no difference in accuracy using fire formed or new brass, However I would always crimp if I was using a semi, pump or lever action, just as an added safety measure.
 
Haven't reloaded a whole lot or for a long time, but unless I'm wrong isn't it a rule of thumb that you should never try to factory crimp any bullet that isn't grooved? Makes sense that a crimped premium bullet will do nothing but possibly deform the bullet and worse run pressures up unpredictably(?) Please reply if I'm out of the ballpark - this is important.
 
Read the instructions from LEE, it doesn't need a cannelure on the bullet. I like it and for $20 if you find it's a waste of time you're not out much dough.
 
When you decide to start casting for your pet rife the FCD is a great addition as it can be set to just remove the belling on your case. My Husquavarna will do sub 1/2" groups atr 100 yds from a rest. Agree with the rest that applying a crimp on your bullets isn't really necessary, let friction do the work.

Real men shoot cast...just ask the Buffalos.:D

Take Care

Bob
 
I wouldn't crimp for a bolt 30 06.Not even sure about a 4 round mag semi auto.Try it without.If the bullets jump forward and fail to feed,then add some crimp,but use bullets with a crimping cannelure.
Men on this board have said it is not necesary to crimp for the Norinco M14,and I believe them.
 
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