Lee No.5 General Range

[budman]

I've only put 15 rounds so far through my jungle carbine.
Now I am only familiar with meters and not yards,is the
battle sight good up to 100m.And if I flip up the scaled
peep sight,is that 100m then up?
It is a No.4 MK1 rear sight.What would a decent group
size for this rifle?

When I bought the rifle the round that came with it
were loose,so I don't know the weight of the rounds.

 

[LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1]

The battle sight is sighted in for 300 yards (274M) the adjustable sight goes form 100 yards, too 1300 yards (1188M) Just remember, these are calibrated using the Mk7 military ammo.

A decent group with a Enfield with irons I would have to say is 2-3" at 100 yards, but don't take my word for it, Im not the best shot lol.

 

[cosmic]

If its the original site, it should be something like 300-800 y/300y. A yard is 10% less than a meter. Its not the same scale for yardage as a No4 Mk1 sight, although they are interchangeable.
You can get the rifle to zero at 100 y by using a higher front sight - someone may already have done this...
The standard FMJ bullet weight is 174 grain. If its old FMJ ammunition, be careful, it could be corrosive - you'll need to take steps to protect the bore.

 

[Drachenblut]

Typically, you can use the peep/battle site to center at 100 yards, due to the idea of point blank ranging. The battle site is designed so that when fired, you should not be shooting over the height of an average man's head anywhere in-between 100 to 300 yards. I have fired and easily gotten tight groups on the battle site at 100 yards on my No.5 (which is the original site in 800 yardage). Now, I understand that the clicks on the site are calculated in M.O.A., and you can tinker with that to find just the right calibration. I find mine, for 100 yards dead center, is 12 clicks from the bottom.
Hope that helps some,
D

 

[budman]

Very helpful guys,Thank you.When I buy more rounds,I'll bench rest
it and try this sighting.

PS, does a No.5 barrel shoot shorter than a No.4 in distance?

 

[bigedp51]

The No.4 and No.5 Jungle Carbine are sighted in with the rear Mk.1 sight in the up position and set at the lowest sight setting of 200 yds. With a 6:00 hold at 100 yds on a 6 inch diameter bullseye target the bullet is to hit 3 inches high. If you look at the bottom line on the chart below you will see at 25 yds the No.5 should be hitting 3/4 of an inch high. At 100 yds it should be hitting 3 inches high or above the point of aim with military Mk.7 ammo.

With the rear sight in the down position and using the battle sight after sighting in as above the rifle will hit 6 inches high at 100 yds and 1 1/2 inches high at 25 yds.

Please click on the link below for the complete sighting instructions

REME Precis No. SA/Rifles/3 (Zeroing of No.1, No.3, No.4, No.5 Rifles)

http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=331-REME-Precis-No.-SA-Rifles-3-%28Zeroing-of-No.1-No.3-No.4-No.5-Rifles%29

 

[budman]

The No.4 and No.5 Jungle Carbine are sighted in with the rear Mk.1 sight in the up position and set at the lowest sight setting of 200 yds. With a 6:00 hold at 100 yds on a 6 inch diameter bullseye target the bullet is to hit 3 inches high. If you look at the bottom line on the chart below you will see at 25 yds the No.5 should be hitting 3/4 of an inch high. At 100 yds it should be hitting 3 inches high or above the point of aim with military Mk.7 ammo.

With the rear sight in the down position and using the battle sight after sighting in as above the rifle will hit 6 inches high at 100 yds and 1 1/2 inches high at 25 yds.

Please click on the link below for the complete sighting instructions

REME Precis No. SA/Rifles/3 (Zeroing of No.1, No.3, No.4, No.5 Rifles)

http://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=331-REME-Precis-No.-SA-Rifles-3-%28Zeroing-of-No.1-No.3-No.4-No.5-Rifles%29

A very interesting read,thanks