Legal Info for Reloaders - New from NFA

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FYI
I just got a notice from the NFA that they were warned that Ontario Minister of Justice in collaboration with the OPP & Toronto Police will begin enforcement of all the laws that apply to Reloaders.
Legal Info for Reloaders
Edward L. Burlew, LL.B., Barrister and Solicitor, CSSA
Reloaders, Powder horns, and Gunpowder
Most of the sportsmen who reload are very careful in handling powder and primers. They know that it is very important to provide for their own safety and their family?s safety. They keep their powder under lock and key when not using it. But some often forget the powder in the reloader.
This is the same powder that must be kept under lock and key. This is a requirement of the Explosives Act. There is room to interpret gun powder as ammunition under the Criminal Code and this could be interpreted as unsafe storage of ammunition.
To keep your rights safe always empty your reloader and lock the gunpowder up. Keep your powder horn under lock and key.
These same comments apply to primers.
Store Your Powder Safely
The storage of gun powder is regulated by the explosives act, r.S.C. 1990. you may keep a maximum of 12 kg. In a dwelling if it in a suitable container. this is specified to be a box of 3/4 inch thick wood, no ferrous fittings (use brass, bronze, or glue), be locked and labelled aexplosives@. only 2 kg. Can be out of the box at any one time to be used. this means that when you are finished reloading you must return the unused powder to the locked box. the ministry of energy mines and resources recommends that anyone who contravenes this be charged under the criminal code with unsafe storage of ammunition. to the ministry there is no distinction between black powder and smokeless powder. primers are to be similarly stored.
Reloaders Bulletin
To clarify a number of questions dealing with the storage of gun powder this bulletin has been prepared from the Explosives Act, Statutes of Canada, chapter 59 and after consulting with the relevant department heads.
Black powder and smokeless powder are not distinguished. All information contained assumes that the quantities are aggregate.
Primers include boxer style, berdan style and percussion caps. These are not distinguished and quantities are to be aggregated.
Storage by an individual who is not licensed as an explosives magazine:
• at a home, a detached house, is not to exceed 10 kg in the aggregate
• if kept in a separate out building dedicated to the storage of gun powder then the storage can be up to 75 kg in the aggregate (this is a detached store)
A detached store is defined in the Explosives Act. In short this says the storage building must have a door of substantial construction that opens outward which is closed and locked except during access, there is ventilation, no iron or steel is exposed to the interior, which shall be scrupulously clean, no water to affect the stored explosive, no other inflammable substance shall be in the store or even nearby. No matches, fire, lights, oiled waste, iron, steel or anything that can cause spontaneous combustion can be in the store. No smoking. No iron or steel tools in the shed. Only copper brass, copper, gun metal, wood. The exterior shall have AExplosives@ in large contrasting letters. A wood building of 3/4" plywood is recommended.
If you keep your gun powder at home then you must keep it in a suitable container, away from other inflammable substances such as paint, thinner, lighter fluids, other ammunition and it can be removed if there is a fire. The container shall not be of steel for iron, it must be kept locked except when being accessed, only gun powder and primers are to be kept in it. Suitable materials are wood and copper. No iron or steel fittings. It must be scrupulously clean. The word Explosives in large contrasting letters must be on the outside. A box of 3/4" plywood is recommended. This is what I call the locked box.
When you are reloading you should be in an area dedicated to reloading, no fumes, matches, smoking, no lights that can cause an explosion. Only 2 kg can be out of the locked box and in the room with you. At the end of the session all the explosives must be returned to the locked box. And you cannot resell or give away these cartridges. If you intend to, you need a license and more restrictions must be met. If you do not follow this you will be liable to be charged with unsafe storage under the Criminal Code.
There is no present limit to the number of primers you can possess. Keep in touch with 1-888-GUN LOSS to find out of future restrictions.
Importation is another matter. Without a permit to import you may not import more than:
• 2000 safety cartridges
• 1000 percussion caps (or primers)
• 500 primed safety cartridges
• 2 kg of smokeless powder
A business that sells gun powder and explosives must comply with the storage provisions and the maximum gun powder allowed to be stored is 12 kg unless in a separate detached store. 10,000 percussion caps or primers are the maximum, and they have to be a separate locked box not with the gun powder.
All reloaders are reminded to check their fire insurance and leases to see if they are allowed to have explosives on their premises.
Presently there is no limit to the number of safety cartridges (loaded ammunition) except that it must be reasonable as required for a rifle, revolver or shotgun where a person may lawfully so possess the firearm. This last statement from the Explosives Act is insidious because if you can not legally own a weapon because it is prohibited you are not qualified to own the ammunition for it because it is not reasonable.
In the mean time remember to empty the powder hopper on your reloader after every session and put it in a 3/4 inch plywood locked box made with brass screws. No iron nails. Put the word Explosives on it and keep it away from paint and paint thinner.
EDWARD L. BURLEW, LL.B.
Barrister and Solicitor
16 John Street
Thornhill, Ontario L3T 1X8
 
why keep it away from paint and paint thinner ? i would anyway but what is the other reason?

I guess this is too address the rash of hand loading blow up accidents that have been occurring in suburbia
 
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Thats interesting! I wonder how that compares to the rest of the Country? I have read several threads and posts on each of these issues but I don't remember anything addressing all these issues in one.

My concern is that the rest of us will have to comply with this in the near future if we don't already as these people consider Ont as the center of the universe:rolleyes:

Thanks for sharing.
 
brass hardware is harder to find. most pictures of guys power boxes on this forum use "brass" colored hardware. not the same. its being sticky but if you want to follow the law to the T something to think about
 
what do they meen they are going to start enforceing the regulations? are they going to check up on everyone who reloads now?:rolleyes:....
 
brass hardware is harder to find. most pictures of guys power boxes on this forum use "brass" colored hardware. not the same. its being sticky but if you want to follow the law to the T something to think about

When I was shopping for the hardware for my boxes I used a magnet to make sure I was getting solid brass, as alot of the "brass" fittings I was looking at were brass plated/colored steel.
 
FYI
I just got a notice from the NFA that they were warned that Ontario Minister of Justice in collaboration with the OPP & Toronto Police will begin enforcement of all the laws that apply to Reloaders.

Great! Does that mean they are also going to enforce and check up on the safe storage of all the other volatile and explosive everyday products people keep in their homes, such as; propane bottles, solvents, gas cans, thinners etc. Why just target reloaders? A full propane canister that goes off is going to cause far greater damage than a couple of pounds of smokeless powder.
 
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Ed needs a proof reader.

Noun 1. **proofreader - someone who reads proof in order to find errors and mark corrections
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pressman, printer - someone whose occupation is printing

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**all one word
 
They will simply make it a requirement to have a PAL to buy reloading supplies and have the stores keep a book of sales based on your ID. They then get a copy of the book and start knocking on doors.
 
As usual Edward Burlew solicitor for the CSSA is on top of things. The Ontario CFO must have a lot of time on their hands, I guess they're getting tired of same day turnarounds on all their other bureaucratic horse####:mad:
 
And now it starts. Remember last year the CFO article re reloading. If they get you re violation here then bingo they get your firearms. Think about it. Requesting voluntary inspections to see if they can educate you re proper storage from Yorks Chief.

This site is monitored hence there is data showing some guys don't follow the act.

All part of confiscation.

FROM ERD WEB SITE

HANDLOADING FOR PERSONAL USE
29 Sporting ammunition cartridges may be filled or refilled on residential premises for noncommercial
use without a factory licence subject to the following conditions:
a)
The place at which the filling takes place shall be separated from the magazine in which
the propellant is kept. "Place" means a bench or area of work and not necessarily an
enclosed space.
b)
In addition to that contained in the cartridges already made, there shall be no more than 2
kg of propellant at the place.
c)
No other work shall be undertaken at the place while filling is in progress.
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d)
No fire, heater or artificial light (except a light that is of such construction, position and
character that it will not cause any danger of fire or explosion) shall be allowed where the
filling takes place (and this includes "NO SMOKING").

e)
When operations have ceased, the place shall be cleaned to ensure that all spills, loose
percussion caps, etc., are cleaned up and destroyed. Remaining propellant and caps
should be returned to their respective packages and then to the magazines.

STORAGE AND POSSESSION OF PROPELLANT POWDERS

POSSESSION AND PERSONAL USE

17. Propellants not exceeding 10 kg in their approved canisters, caddies and kegs may be stored on
residential property, providing they are in a locked substantial magazine that is kept clean and used
exclusively for propellants. No federal licence or possession permit is required for this type of storage.
The outside of the magazine must be marked with the word “EXPLOSIVE.” No flammable or highly
combustible material may be stored in or near the magazine
 
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As a gas plant operator, i know that propane and butane are much more explosive than smokeless rifle powder. As stated before propane is much more dangerous, and most everyone has some at home. Heck, the stored energy in everyone's hot water tank in their basement has more stored energy than most everyones powder in the cans.

Smokeless powder doesn't explode, unless you put it in a container like they are asking you to put it in. When a fire does start burning in the house around a large super containerthat someone has it sealed off, YES it is the pressure created by the powder burning that would make it explosive. The law is totally backwards here as they are trying to make it safe and are actually making it more unsafe. I am not going to follow this law if it ever comes west.

Think about is as gasoline. If you dump gasoline on the floor and light it, yes it burns.
You take that gasoline, put it in say, a glass jar. Seal the lid, dump 1 liter of gas around and on top of the jar. What is going to happen, the gas will burn around the glass jar, and the stuff inside, youguessed it, will begin to "flash off" and the jar will pressure up and explode. I don't want to be near it when it does.

Stand up and fight, don't fall for this law they are trying to push as it is just stupid.
 
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Stand up and fight, don't fall for this law they are trying to push as it is just stupid.
It's a regulation that has been in place for some time. Poorly communicated, unenforced and poorly followed by most reloaders (because it's foolish), but there it is. And it's national in scope, west included.
 
It's a regulation that has been in place for some time. Poorly communicated, unenforced and poorly followed by most reloaders (because it's foolish), but there it is. And it's national in scope, west included.

That I have to agree with Acrashb 100%.

No way to know who actually is reloading at all, nor to be able to enforce it.

Secondly. How to communicate these regulations to people who did not even know they needed to register their guns or become criminals.

Remember. FAC & Import records = 5+ million firearms owners, 20+ million firearms. Current legal records, 2 Million Firearms owners and 8 million firearms.

How to inform those millions of Canadians that reloading has rules that "MUST" be followed or they are in violation of the law.
 
Now according to the current Explosives act.
I am a Canadian citizen going to the United States and would like to bring ammunition back with me. Can I do this? How much can I bring?

Canadian citizens must obey U.S. federal and state laws for purchasing ammunition in the United States. For more information, refer to the ATF Brochure on Non-Immigrant Aliens Purchasing Firearms and Ammunition in the United States (PDF, 75 kb).

For personal use, Canadian residents can import 5000 rounds of which 200 rounds are duty-free. An Explosives Import Permit must be obtained to import larger quantities.

To obtain an import permit to Canada from the Explosives Regulatory Division (ERD), contact:

Explosives Regulatory Division
1431 Merivale Road
Ottawa, ON K1A 0G1
Telephone: 613-948-5200
Fax: 613-948-5195
E-mail

To obtain an import permit to Canada from International Trade Canada (ITCan), apply to ITCan for an International Import Certificate by calling 613-996-2387 or by faxing your request to 613-996-9933 and requesting blank application forms.

For the importation of model rocket motors, black powder, and smokeless powder, refer to the table of personal exemptions on our web site.

Explosives that may be imported without an explosives Importation Permit
Explosive Type/Quantity
Safety cartridges/5000
Percussion caps (primers) for safety cartridges/5000
Empty primed cartridge cases/5000
Gunpowder (black powder) in canisters of 500 g or less and smokeless powder in canisters of 4000 g or less/8 kg
Model rocket engines/6
Pyrotechnic distress signals and lifesaving devices/Any quantity necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft, train, vessel or vehicle in which they are transported, or for the safety of the occupants
Those numbers look like 5000 factory rounds, 5000 primers, smokeless powder 8kg before requiring an import permit.
 
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